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Post by <[Iron Man]> on Apr 20, 2005 17:11:54 GMT
Wouldn't it be amazing to have a Battlefield 1942 type game but set in WOTW instead? You could have a book version as well as a modern version. For those who are not familiar with Battlefielf1942 it's basically a first player game where you get to jump into a range of sea, air and land vehicles. Tripods vs Iron Clad Tripod vs M1 Abrams FM vs B2 Bomber You could do all kinds of stuff
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Post by ArmoredTrackLayer on Apr 20, 2005 18:54:08 GMT
could always make a mod. But, can you imagine the team stacking, everyone would go marty, and also, what would the martys do when NOT in a machine? Scuttle about and get shot full of holes by angry human soldiers lol
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Post by <[Iron Man]> on Apr 20, 2005 19:48:33 GMT
could always make a mod. But, can you imagine the team stacking, everyone would go marty, and also, what would the martys do when NOT in a machine? Scuttle about and get shot full of holes by angry human soldiers lol Shooting Martians part sounds good to me ;D SMAW/M249 SAW? hehe
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Post by Bayne on Apr 21, 2005 0:44:00 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]I was always dissapointed that there was only one martian machine mission in the PS game. Certainly any similar game should have martian playability. [/glow]
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Post by <[Iron Man]> on Apr 21, 2005 10:59:19 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]I was always dissapointed that there was only one martian machine mission in the PS game. Certainly any similar game should have martian playability. [/glow] Yeah definitely! Not sure if you're aware of Battlefield 1942 but it has different kinds of vehicles such as land, sea and air based. There's no reason why the same couldn't be done with the Martians, would make it more playable anyway.
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Post by artillerymanfan on Apr 24, 2005 19:29:26 GMT
I suppose, but it'd be kinda hard to imagine some new Martian machines, like the navy part, i mean, isnt mars red and not having water on it? Not to mention the different classes would be weird, i mean humans could be easy, but Martians: Red thing, Grey Thing, Spider Operator? Sure it would be neat but tough to pull off!
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Post by <[Iron Man]> on Apr 25, 2005 0:04:31 GMT
Well it would make a good challenge then!
Not to mention two very different opponents could make an interesting game!
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Post by artillerymanfan on Apr 25, 2005 19:44:11 GMT
I suddenly realized another thing, i mean, wouldnt the martians technology wipe the humans off the map? Not to mention EVERYBODY (except me) would be a martian (human pride!) , A: cuz their weapons = sweet and B: it would be cool to be badguys riding in tall machines. The end result? 1 against 63, Bring it on!
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Post by twistedrabbit on Apr 26, 2005 1:44:11 GMT
Wow! I had this idea too. ;D I thought about it and the mechanics could work out. Obviously the the Martian's heatray is very powerful. But what mankind lacks in firepower they make up in numbers of course. There could be a whole arsenal of unrealized human machines, not just ironclads. i.e. (the numbers mean how many men can ride in the vehicle, like BF) Armored Quadricycle (1) -Machine Gun Armored Car (3) -High Powered Rifle -Small Cannon Wind Wagon (3) -Machine Gun Halftrack (5) -Gatling Gun Armored Sea Car (6) -Machine Gun -Machine Gun -Big Gun Tank (2) -Cannon -Machine Gun Armored Motored Cycle (1) Ring Boiler (10) -Machine guns (6) -Cannon Ironclad (15) -Cannon -Cannon -Cannon Submersible (1) -Cannon -Torpedo Biplane Assaulter (2) -Machinegun -Machinegun Biplane Bomber (2) -Machinegun (rear) -Bombs Armored Carriage (2) -Cannon These may seem a bit "out there" -But they're all WW1 and pre war machine ideas and most of them were realized but never put into commission. (For good reason. -But it would be fun to bring them into the game for steampunk's sake) Martians could move about while not inside their various machines by using three mechanical legs attatched underneath them. It'd be their default mode of transportation...rather than human feet or moving by tentacles, they walk with small tripod legs. Since gravity significantly hinders their ability to move, the Martians might use something like this. Combined with a small personal heatray and pipette weapon...if a Fighting Machine ever came down and the Martian inside lived, he could come out before it exploded and still have a bit of a fighting chance.
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Post by artillerymanfan on Apr 26, 2005 2:06:11 GMT
And the Martian medic could be a Martian with a tube to inject blood into another player! And for humans you could have like a Heavy Explosives class, when I say heavy i mean heavy! Dynamite, Nitro tubes, Hand grenades, the works. But would the Martians be able to have flying machine? Would the Brits/Humans stand a chance against it with flak or fighters? It could work and would be totally fun to play, i'd be humans 24/7. Human Classes: -Heavy Explosives: TNT, NITRO, Nades, Knife -Officer: Revolver, Whistle (for artillery strikes), Binoculars -Field Soldier: Rifle, Grenades, Mines, Bayonet (for foot martians) -Artillery Soldier (personal fave): Shovel, Binoculars, Revolver -Water fetcher (medic): Knife, Revolver, Bucket Martian Classes I can't really think of any yet, but someone might be able to make this work, Martian vehicles could be someone elses turf, Human Armory: -Tank -Flak cannon -Mortar (explosive shell/solid shot models) -Howitzer (explosive shell/solid shot models) -Biplane -Fairey Swordfish class bomber -Army truck (can shoot rifles out back) -Ironclad warships -Barrage balloons (for flying machine defence on Buckingham Palace map) Thats as far as my thinking will take me or this post will allow. A fair number of cool ideas, no?
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Post by twistedrabbit on Apr 26, 2005 3:44:27 GMT
Yup yup. All good. Martians would obviously have the Fighting Machine with alternative black smoke launcher. ;D Also... The Flying Machine (can hold 3 martians) Two control two small side heatrays, and the driver controls the blacksmoke bombing The Handling Machine (3 as well) One controls the machine itself with medium range tentacle attack, and the alternative attack which "beams" enemy units into the claws and tosses them into the basket on the machine's back, regenerating health for every human captured. The other two control smaller heatrays on the back of the machine You'd have to throw in some new machines I suppose...I'm all in favor of a smaller faster three legged machine with either a medium heatray or some sort of electro-shock tentacle weapon. The Martian classes might not be very distinctive, but perhaps there could be a fighter, worker, or a "Psychic" one with mental attacks. Of course if you go into that, why not include The Selenites?
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Post by artillerymanfan on Apr 27, 2005 1:33:13 GMT
I'm gonna learn later on how to make a mod for Bf 1942 and I'm gonna actually consider WOTW, I mean, the British Models would already be there, along with some weapons i could use, or borrow from BF 1918 maybe. I'd need help though, cause I can only do the human side. Being a beginner and a patriotic colonial. (huzzah for Canada and Britain and the Queen!) So I could give it a running start in a few years.
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Post by <[Iron Man]> on Apr 28, 2005 10:43:44 GMT
There's no reason why no one could do both versions, one for the classic adaptation, and one for a more modern one, ala 'Desert Combat'
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Post by artillerymanfan on Apr 28, 2005 20:49:13 GMT
The Desert Combat/Modern version doesnt sound too appealing to me, sure, it could help the balance of power, but isnt that what WOTW is about? Humans getting turned into medium-rare delicacies by Martians? I'd want to be among those determined survivors of the Novel/Jeff Wayne adaptation. But then again, I'm a history buff (sadly, I think thats the only place im buff) so its up to popular demand. But if anyone wants me to try 19th-Early 20th century, I'll gladly do it. When I learn how of course.
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Post by ArmoredTrackLayer on May 1, 2005 0:10:45 GMT
The 19th cent one sounds good because of the steampunk feel. Put out a casting call for developers and modelers at PlanetBattlefield.com Maybe youll get some sorta reply
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Post by <[Iron Man]> on May 1, 2005 19:43:30 GMT
Thing is with a game it's better if two sides are equal, otherwise you'll know that the majority of players will go for the stronger team, in this case the Martians and make it an even more unbalanced game.
With the WOTW RTS game the British could defeat the Martians, it'll be interesting to see two sides going at it.
You need to remember that a game needs to be balanced if people are to play it.
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Post by artillerymanfan on May 5, 2005 21:05:23 GMT
True but you could make it that either A: set a limit to how many can be martians, or B: make the humans weapons strong. Either way, I dont care, I'd always be a loyal human.
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Post by artillerymanfan on May 5, 2005 21:06:53 GMT
And also, I think it should be made that when you shoot human rifles or other non explosive ordnance into the hood's eyes, it does good damage.
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Post by <[Iron Man]> on May 10, 2005 18:24:11 GMT
Perhaps the focus should be different for both sides. For instance if the Martians have very few machines, but ones that are overwhelming such as a Tripod then it would make sense for the Humans to have many different machines that WORK TOGETHER (something unheard of online lol) such as Warships, Aircraft, Tanks, Artillery etc.. that can be brought against the Invaders.
Perhaps the Invaders should have fewer powerful machines?
So in essence the focus for the Invaders would be to spread out in the few powerful machines they have capturing control points and picking off units. While more emphasis should be on the Humans sticking together and working as a team to take down Tripods et al.
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Post by artillerymanfan on May 10, 2005 19:53:43 GMT
People online never work as a team however, so that would be hard to make. I really do think that you should be able to shoot rifles and medium machine guns into the hood and plaster the martians because otherwise you couldn't use any class other than heavy explosives to take them down in vehicles.
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