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Post by Slick2097 on Feb 27, 2005 19:21:17 GMT
He has one day left well one and a half including the time zone difference.
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Post by themotile on Feb 27, 2005 19:49:10 GMT
He has one day left well one and a half including the time zone difference. Theres still time for an internet trailer.......
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Post by dudalb on Feb 27, 2005 20:56:44 GMT
"I really cannot see any director not making sure of all the legalities before starting production." It happens all the time. A lot of lawyers in Hollywood make a living out of copyright infringement lawsuits. A film company actually made a prequel to "Lord Of The Rings" called "Ellaser" only to be sued for copyright violation. They had to change the name to Ancanar and dub in new names . The film has not been released and from the footage I have seen we are not missing much.
And Pendragon is a very small company, a "Mom and Pop" operation in the film world, and I doubt they have a full time legal staff. They probably have a attorney on a retainer fee to handle their legal affairs.
BTW I doubt that Paramouns and Spielberg give a damn about the Pendragon film or any Pendragon Forum. Anybody who thinks that even if it is released before June 29th, the Pendragon film is going to damage the Speilberg efforts really has to look a things a lot more realistically. Pendragon versus Paramoune equald Bows and Arrows Against the Lighting as far as box offices goes.
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Post by TOMAHAWK on Feb 27, 2005 21:23:48 GMT
Why do people keep comparing PP to Paramount? as if it is some sort of competition? , Pendragon are making a film and they are not "competing" against paramount, I am sure Hines isn't making this film to get one over Paramount.. if you want a comparison ...how about comparing the New Star wars film to SS WOTW..which one is gonna gross more .. bearing in mind all the kiddie audience for the NSW's film.
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Post by HTT on Feb 28, 2005 11:33:56 GMT
I thought that Pendragon were to release the next two trailers End of Feb/Early March, so there's still time yet before we need to start worrying.
Another thought on a worldwide release: We're all expecting it to be in cinemas worldwide, but perhaps it will also be available for Online download? That would truly a worldwide release. I know it could be a nightmare, with the risk of online pirating, but quite a few indie films are released on streaming media and wotnot. Yes, it's a b*gger for those on dial-up, but with broadband getting cheaper, perhaps this is the way to go?
I personally would love to see it on the big screen, but if the alternative is online, then I'd be just as happy to get someone to download it for me and bung it onto DVD-R and watch it at leisure - and be able to compare it to the book as I go along.
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Post by themotile on Feb 28, 2005 12:50:33 GMT
Pitty the entire cast sent us those lovely cast messages inviting us to the cinemas March 30th, they look a little foolish in retrospect.
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Post by maniacs on Feb 28, 2005 12:51:43 GMT
I thought that Pendragon were to release the next two trailers End of Feb/Early March, so there's still time yet before we need to start worrying. Another thought on a worldwide release: We're all expecting it to be in cinemas worldwide, but perhaps it will also be available for Online download? That would truly a worldwide release. I know it could be a nightmare, with the risk of online pirating, but quite a few indie films are released on streaming media and wotnot. Yes, it's a b*gger for those on dial-up, but with broadband getting cheaper, perhaps this is the way to go? I personally would love to see it on the big screen, but if the alternative is online, then I'd be just as happy to get someone to download it for me and bung it onto DVD-R and watch it at leisure - and be able to compare it to the book as I go along. I was wonderin about that too. But as someone else has said it would not get back the invested millions.
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Post by HTT on Feb 28, 2005 13:40:21 GMT
That's one of the phrases actors use that REALLY annoys me: "I look forward to seeing you all in cinemas" I must keep missing them then, coz everytime I go, they're never there! I was really looking forward to seeing some of these people in the cinema, and I'm always let down by them not turning up! Back to being serious: what defines a "worldwide release" - a cinema in Woking and a cinema t'other side of the world, or 1 cinema in several countries in the world is loosely a worldwide release (although not everyone would get to see it). As for making the money - it depends on the investors. If I recall, the original investors just wanted to see it made - perhaps $40m to them is small change, and they're not worried about a vast profit, as long as they get WOTW on film. You could easily make the cash back on downloads: If you charged a cheap(ish!) $20, you'd only need to sell 2m copies worlwide.
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Post by themotile on Feb 28, 2005 14:17:59 GMT
That's one of the phrases actors use that REALLY annoys me: "I look forward to seeing you all in cinemas" I must keep missing them then, coz everytime I go, they're never there! I was really looking forward to seeing some of these people in the cinema, and I'm always let down by them not turning up! Back to being serious: what defines a "worldwide release" - a cinema in Woking and a cinema t'other side of the world, or 1 cinema in several countries in the world is loosely a worldwide release (although not everyone would get to see it). As for making the money - it depends on the investors. If I recall, the original investors just wanted to see it made - perhaps $40m to them is small change, and they're not worried about a vast profit, as long as they get WOTW on film. You could easily make the cash back on downloads: If you charged a cheap(ish!) $20, you'd only need to sell 2m copies worlwide. Its not so much the litteral meaning it the impression we get from that phrase "a world wide cinema release" it gives the impression of being in your local Odeon cinema. I would presume a world wide release would mean exactly that, in that it was being released every where in the world (almost) at a majority of cinemas. I wouldnt call a hand full of art house cinemas in Seattle a world wide release.
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Post by epicdream on Feb 28, 2005 15:48:52 GMT
Yeah but you have to remember how Americans throw the term "world" around. Just look at all the nations in the 'World Series' baseball! ;D No offence to all the yanks out there!
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Post by timeship2 on Feb 28, 2005 15:57:00 GMT
I live not from the Mexican Border and you often see 'International' companies here eg. Taxi companies etc. It just means they will take you across the border crossing to Mexico ie an international destination. Makes them sound more impressive ;D
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Post by themotile on Feb 28, 2005 15:57:10 GMT
Yeah but you have to remember how Americans throw the term "world" around. Just look at all the nations in the 'World Series' baseball! ;D No offence to all the yanks out there! Ahh but doesnt the world series mean its the best in the world according to the yanks? Its not the world wide series. Hines's statement was pretty exact. "a world wide release on March 30th" that sounds pretty firm to me. Its the 1st tomorrow and still no new trailers.
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Post by dudalb on Mar 1, 2005 0:56:17 GMT
"Just look at all the nations in the 'World Series' baseball!" Well, the Toronto Bluejays won twice and they are Canadians. ;D
"Its the 1st tomorrow and still no new trailers" Pendragon simply does not have time to market and promote the film.
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Post by themotile on Mar 1, 2005 9:57:57 GMT
"Just look at all the nations in the 'World Series' baseball!" Well, the Toronto Bluejays won twice and they are Canadians. ;D "Its the 1st tomorrow and still no new trailers" Pendragon simply does not have time to market and promote the film. Im not on about marketing or promoting, any one of us could knock together a trailer in half a day if we had some finished material to play with, the fact that PP hasnt released a trailer even though two were promised is a bad sign. Either they cant be bothered, they are not allowed or they have not finished material with which to make a trailer.
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Post by Gerkinman on Mar 1, 2005 10:32:31 GMT
this movie is looking grim
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Post by themotile on Mar 1, 2005 11:13:49 GMT
Indeed.
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Post by Lensman on Mar 2, 2005 1:43:03 GMT
Yeah but you have to remember how Americans throw the term "world" around. Just look at all the nations in the 'World Series' baseball! ;D No offence to all the yanks out there! No offense taken here by this yank. I also think it's incredibly arrogant for our country--any one country--to call our baseball championship playoffs a "World Series".
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Post by Lensman on Mar 2, 2005 2:12:14 GMT
I thought that Pendragon were to release the next two trailers End of Feb/Early March, so there's still time yet before we need to start worrying. Let's look at what Hines has actually said. Press releases can be found at home.wanadoo.nl/smien/pendragon/messages/From message posted to the site on Nov 25, 2004: "Our distribution is a consortium of distributors of which more are signing on every week. The date posted on our website, 30 March 2005, is the worldwide release date. Some minor adjustments may be made country to country, based on a variety of factors relating to individual distribution contracts within each region." From message posted to the site on Jan 12: "The trailer will appear in theaters beginning late January and early February." From message posted to the site on Jan 15: "Two new trailers with completed FX will be be released to theaters beginning circulation in late February and early March. Early March will also see new television trailers which will be broadcast in the U.S. and select countries." The dates appear to be slipping. I hope I'm wrong and Gray is right, that the March 30 release date is firm. But as time passes it looks more and more like the film has been delayed. If this is Pendragon's first feature-length film, as several on this forum have stated, then it's entirely possible some things are taking longer than they realized. This seems to be particularly true of FX-heavy films; even the Lord of the Rings post-production was rushed on the third film (Return of the King) because of tha massive number of FX sequences. Several people here keep asking "If the March 30 date is no longer valid, why hasn't it been changed?" I think the most likely reason is because having missed one deadline, they aren't about to announce another until they are a lot more sure of having a realistic release date. From Pendragon's point of view, taking down the March 30 date at this time will gain them nothing. It will only throw their investors into doubt, and fuel more negative speculation of the kind we're already seeing in this forum. Put it another way: If *you* were producing this film, and the production fell behind, would *you* pull down the announced release date before you had a more firm date in mind? *I* certainly wouldn't. And again, to reiterate, I hope I'm wrong. I hope Gray is right and the film won't be delayed. We'll find out over the next 29 days.
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Post by DanMacK on Mar 3, 2005 18:28:36 GMT
No offense taken here by this yank. I also think it's incredibly arrogant for our country--any one country--to call our baseball championship playoffs a "World Series". Well, in regards to the "World Series" thing, I read in a few places that this isn't in reference to "The World's Best", but rather the original sponsor. The first World Series was sponsored by the New York "World" Newpaper, hence the name. Cheers, Dan M. Glad the Jays were 'World's Champions' twice
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Post by themotile on Mar 3, 2005 21:27:10 GMT
Well, in regards to the "World Series" thing, I read in a few places that this isn't in reference to "The World's Best", but rather the original sponsor. The first World Series was sponsored by the New York "World" Newpaper, hence the name. Cheers, Dan M. Glad the Jays were 'World's Champions' twice Ok cool, thanks for that Dan.
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