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Post by RustiSwordz on Feb 3, 2005 7:50:19 GMT
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Post by RustiSwordz on Feb 3, 2005 8:03:56 GMT
Music sounds as if John Williams has gone the 'Dual of the Fates' way too.
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Post by Ashe Raven on Feb 3, 2005 8:44:01 GMT
If I had £6 only to spend on a cinema ticket and choice was between SS and TH.
I'm afraid the lego house, as you put it, would would come over the crashing bridge.
I think you forget, most sets for movies and crashing walls look like lego to begin with and Not all pyros are Computer Generated. LOTR had a mixture of all three elements, Props, CG and lightning.
Still that said, I'm watching the trailer and look forward to another good film from SS. I hope it's better than Milority Report, which I hated personally.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Feb 3, 2005 8:56:06 GMT
Well id only watch the Hinds version on DVD.
The war of the Worlds story has as much relevance now as it ever did back in Victorian times.
However we dont live in victorian times anymore, but the story, about mans vanity and decadence still has a place now. To get the full benefit the story needs to be placed in a conteporary light.
The spielberg version despite the changes is more relvent that ever in this age of corruption and rising taxes/ crime. etc.
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Post by papalazarou on Feb 3, 2005 9:26:54 GMT
I can't find the new trailer from that link for some reason. Can someone provide another link please?
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Post by Flynn77 on Feb 3, 2005 9:33:34 GMT
Looks V cool!! It's actually the heat ray taking out the bridge, not a cylinder. So, looks like the 'ol Berg's gone with the invisible heatray, not a green laser in sight!
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Post by Flynn77 on Feb 3, 2005 9:39:16 GMT
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Post by DarkElastic on Feb 3, 2005 9:43:49 GMT
You know, I was going to type something about hoping the Spielberg one fails, but I have had enough now. I won't watch Spielberg's version on the cinema, that is fact. I will do what I can to watch Hine's version on the cinema. The same for Jeff's. But, whatever happens, it is going to benefit the WOTW world that we have - bring more people into it that may be educated about the book and musical. I now fully retire from putting any version down. I will watch them all at one point - even though I refused to watch the patriot and still havn't. I still do not feel this story needs an updated version, it is still as good now as it was back in 1898 because the story is so good.
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Post by papalazarou on Feb 3, 2005 10:04:45 GMT
Looks great. Thanks for the new link
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Post by David Faltskog on Feb 3, 2005 10:06:28 GMT
Nope not there either, or it's stopped working. D.F.
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Post by Flynn77 on Feb 3, 2005 10:13:00 GMT
I'ts there, page loads, it's on the left, right click and save. Guess it will vanish soon though.
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Post by Flynn77 on Feb 3, 2005 10:14:17 GMT
Did I say left I meant right!!! Don't rely on me in a crisis! ;D
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Post by David Faltskog on Feb 3, 2005 10:23:40 GMT
Cheer's, all working and jolly good fun, i kinda figured you meant right. D.F.
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Post by Rob on Feb 3, 2005 10:47:10 GMT
Agree with you totally rusti about War of the Worlds relivance today, although I am very excited about both version I think they both have an equal place in my mind, it's great that we are getting a modern and an original version of the story.
We should all be very happy.
I've just seen it and it blew me away, one things for sure the CG will be the most amazing CG we've seen in any film so far. One thing strikes me, that the family is definately a big part of this, the view from the common person, a big part of War of the Worlds, but I'm only basing it on the trailer so far.
Those cars flipping off the free way.... what caused that?
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Post by Flynn77 on Feb 3, 2005 10:59:07 GMT
You can definately see the heatray impact hits, then the whole bridge starts melting/colapsing/buckleing. Wells did describe this effect in the book. Then the waves of the bridge kind of flip up the cars, and if you look closely a petrol tanker flips into the ground and sets fire to the houses. I really like this, it sticks to the Wells heatray as such that it kind of has unlimited power, it just destroys anything it touches via heat.
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Post by nervouspete on Feb 3, 2005 11:03:15 GMT
You know, I was going to type something about hoping the Spielberg one fails, but I have had enough now. I won't watch Spielberg's version on the cinema, that is fact. I will do what I can to watch Hine's version on the cinema. The same for Jeff's. But, whatever happens, it is going to benefit the WOTW world that we have - bring more people into it that may be educated about the book and musical. I now fully retire from putting any version down. I will watch them all at one point - even though I refused to watch the patriot and still havn't. I still do not feel this story needs an updated version, it is still as good now as it was back in 1898 because the story is so good. Hullo, DarkElastic! I'd just wait for the reviews if I were you. If the broadsheets and the respected sources (ie: NOT 'Aintitcoolnews') start applauding it and noting its chilling atmosphere, good acting and realism combined with a serious message - then I'd run double quick to the cinema to catch it, because if it turns out seriously great you may be kicking yourself if you miss it at the cinema. (Same thing happened to me with Donnie Darko, I wept when I got round to seeing it on DVD. And the director's cut just didn't seem the same for me...) If the review's are 'meh', then feel free to stay away. I just think it's a bit risky avoiding a film even if it gets great, or even good reviews. I'll be watching Pendragon's. I haven't much faith, but they may pull it off. And for all my excitement as to the relevance and realism of the updated setting, and how it chimes in with my personal actual nightmares, I still adore the book and want to see the original setting. And if they both pull it off? Well. I'm a jolly happy tripodophile. And if Jeff manages it too. Well, extra cheesy grin. Pete
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Post by Rust on Feb 3, 2005 11:12:36 GMT
Looks more like laserblasts than heat-rays and they're hitting right above the pillars. No spacecrafts landing on no bridge here. That can't have been the same footage as mentioned before. But this spot sure is short but sweet, and they're still not showing us the enemy. I kinda like that. Makes it more mysterious and creepy.
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Post by I own a cylinder on Feb 3, 2005 11:20:04 GMT
Hmmm...As much as im still routing for Hines to pull off the true adaptation, i must say that SS looks good. I agree that that wasn't a cylinder 'cause its the same as the teaser with the sudden pulse falshes and all, so definatly the heatray. Where this short clip succeeds is the music. very lord of the ringsesque And for once, i like Tom's acting, lol but i feel the tag line 'The last War on Earth, won't be started by humans' is just seems a little crap. Rating...4 / 5
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Post by nervouspete on Feb 3, 2005 11:51:14 GMT
Notes on the trailer: (Spoilers if you haven't seen it!)
Seems to be after the cylinders have landed. Cruise evidently knows something, or has seen something (From his bedroom window? From a call from a friend?) that makes him more urgent than others in fleeing the area. Note other people leaving houses as well.
Manny's truck seems to be the only vehicle that's working. See the other cars that are slewed on pavements, in the roads. Many have their hoods up, clearly their engines having been checked after the EMP.
They haven't had much time to prepare, Cruise's son is carry a box of assorted junk food. The son (Justin Chatwin) and Dakota seem less panicked. Only Cruise seems to realise the danger.
They're fleeing on foot, it seems, but Cruise clocks that the dashboard in Manny's truck is still lit up, and hence starts piling his family into it.
Early indication that Cruise will do anything to keep his family alive? He offer's Manny a seat in his truck, but only because he storms up to the vehicle. I suspect Cruise would have bolted if he hadn't been interupted. Dakota is suprised and confused at their car-jacking, so it seems a short notice thing.
Note Manny running after the truck as everything explodes around them. Note my brain automatically revisuallising Manny as the Bill Bailey character from the top C4 bookshop set comedy 'Black Books'. Poor Manny! And now I reimagine Cruise as Bernard Black, his cruel and whimsically eccentric alcoholic employer, who has stolen his truck for his own uses. Possibly to get some duty frees. His escape from the martians is, as ever, coincidental to his desire for booze.
Back to sanity...
The destruction of the bridge:
I think it probably is the heat ray rather than a cylinder. There would be more dust and a greater flash, and a huge noise if the cylinder was piling along the other side of it. I don't think it is a focused laser weapon though. The flashes seen on top of the pillars are perhaps from the steel pins bursting apart as the heat-ray's shock hits them. It seems to hit far underside of the bridge and tips it over.
If so, it is a 'ghost light' heat ray, which makes me smile absurdly in happiness.
Note the stalled cars falling off the bridge. They tip straight over, clearly not in motion.
Ooooh.
Overall rating: 8/10
(Wanted it to be longer, curse you! Wanted bigger lead up with confused people, Cruise & co wandering, and general brooding atmosphere)
Acting: 9/10 - can't tell much but it seems quite realistic. Downplayed. Cruise is an odd beast. He was mediocre in 'Last Samurai', especially his wretched 'drunk' performance. But he was pretty good in Minority Report and Mission Impossible. I reckon with Mr Spielberg he will be good again. I'd like for Pendragon to go for the downplayed, downbeat mode - despite the period setting. It appears they have gone more for the voice patterns of the time and the hysteria of the novel, which could be a mistake - it takes a lot of acting chops to bring that off.
Audio: 8/10 - menacing, brooding. Yer average Spielberg creepiness, then.
Effects: 10/10 - I mean, c'mon, look at it. It looks like a bridge being flipped over! With cars on it! And explosions! And everything! And real! Cor. Hope there's real art direction behind the pretties though, that they carefully plot out each effect for maximum plausibility and realism.
Direction: 9/10 - close up, intimate, hunched down and vulnerable. No high up shots, everything very hunkered down to road level. Wise. It makes us feel smaller and more nervous and vulnerable.
Script: 8/10 - taut. Sparse. Terse. Good.
This rating system: - 2/10. Farcical due to being judged on only 30 seconds of material. Mr Evans is clearly getting over excited again and is remiss in attaching this proposed degree of quality on so little material. Please consider above ratings to be slightly guff and incredibly biased out of excitement, but I have watched the spot about ten times now.
Frankly, I cannot wait.
Pete
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Feb 3, 2005 11:52:12 GMT
A very mesmerising 33 seconds of footage and a nice treat to to finally see what sort of destruction these invaders can cause. I would hazard a guess and say its the Heat Ray. Its movement as its 'try's' to slid through the bridge and intersection hampered by the concrete structure.
Very nice, very nice indeed
H_C
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