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Post by mctoddridesagain on Sept 15, 2005 8:54:40 GMT
Hilarious: www.syfyportal.com/article.php?id=2026Personal Attacks And Pressure From ParamountOK, so little Timmy's been hassled over copyright and even, shock horror, slagged off for being a charlatan, oh the calumny! Boo hoo, boo hoo... Apart from the wild speculation, paranoid raving, and outright mendacity, tell me how that explains his film looking like a load of amateur night bobbins, eh? Did Paramount zap him with a Talent-Negating Ray? Let another bunfight commence... WOTWOnline
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Post by RustiSwordz on Sept 15, 2005 9:33:09 GMT
Tim Hinds is crap pure and simple how can he hold his muppet Martians against that of Spielberg.
he cant seem to understnd the crux of the problem. he assured us a thousand time that his production woould have top notch SFX have a budget of millions and so on. Hes lied and lied and lied.
Timbo. Ever heard of the story of the boy who cried wolf. people dont like being lied to. Its very insulting and you insulted the fans of War of the Worlds by not coming forward from the outset and saying that your film would be low budget and not top notch. People may have more sympathy for you then.
liars=no friends.
In other words mate = grow the f*** up. You sound like Tony Blair a man who lies everytime every time he opens his mouth that he believes that people do/should believe it too. The general public is more discering than that. Can't you see that, can't you?
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Sept 15, 2005 12:45:11 GMT
Its all getting very tedious now, same thing from him all the time. TH, just put it down to bad experience and move on, your not doing yourself any favours just digging yourself deeper into the ground.
Good publicity though guys, should improve sales of the DVD a little better.
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Post by Balrog on Sept 15, 2005 13:19:24 GMT
Just as we expected really, excuses and lies.
Did Paramount personally come down and make your special FX rubbish? Did they tell all the actors to pretend they were in a school Panto? Did they form the tsunami disaster to hinder your trailer?
No I think not.
Then he complains cos the genuine fans of WOTW are dissapointed in his lies and mistreatment of the source. Its as if he cannot believe people don't like being lied to or cheated.
And of course it is him with all the fake Amazon reviews, have you all seen them? Its a joke!
As HC said, just move on and forget it, the rest of the fans have..........
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Post by Balrog on Sept 15, 2005 13:34:28 GMT
Excerpt from part 2:
"and then they called me Timbo and it was really nasty...."
"When I said Matrix I actually meant Spectrum......"
"when I said the next Al Pachino I meant Albino..."
"......I spend most of my days on Amazon.com, you know just surfing...."
"Spielberg got me in a headlock while Cruise urinated on my shoes...."
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Sept 15, 2005 13:56:03 GMT
Lol @ Balrog. ;D
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Post by bittersound on Sept 15, 2005 13:58:08 GMT
I almost feel sorry for Tim Hines, he's displaying the classic signs of a borderline sociopath. Still, film faults aside, I've watched it 5 times now, I sure that says something (and I'm sure I'm not the only one  ) |
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Post by bittersound on Sept 15, 2005 14:01:46 GMT
Its all getting very tedious now, same thing from him all the time. TH, just put it down to bad experience and move on, your not doing yourself any favours just digging yourself deeper into the ground. I second that. Mind you, I'm dying to read the 2nd part of the interview where he comments on the actual film rather than his ego and paranoia... |
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Sept 15, 2005 20:33:59 GMT
I almost feel sorry for Tim Hines, he's displaying the classic signs of a borderline sociopath. Still, film faults aside, I've watched it 5 times now, I sure that says something (and I'm sure I'm not the only one ) Its like a really bad car crash - you know you shouldn't look but you do. Wonder if I will get sued for referring to his film like that of a really bad car crash  |
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Post by RossH on Sept 15, 2005 20:49:21 GMT
Well I can't say for certain whether he is paranoid or there's some truth in what he says. I can certainly belive that given a choice, theater owners would pick Spielberg's movie over his. And I can well believe that lawyers would send letters trying to disuade him from making the movie.
However, I've yet to see him demonstrate (or even claim) any of this pressure/dirty tricks having any effect whatsoever on the quality of the final movie itself.
I suspect his biggest error was trying to follow George Lucas. I'm sure it was rather appealing to try and shoot as much as possible as greenscreen (or shoot in the country and redress the shot in post). It certainly would be cheaper and faster. However it means that every shot is now an fx shot, and what you save in shooting time you more than lost in post production.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Sept 15, 2005 20:56:14 GMT
I don't know what to make of Hines but all I'll say is - if you're a fan of the book and you wanted to see a great faithful version on the big screen then blame Spielberg and Paramount for not doing it.
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Sept 15, 2005 21:32:03 GMT
But you can also blame Hinsey for not doing it, or Asylum if you didn't like theirs, or George Pal even.
Let's face it.. no version is going to please everybody. Hinesy's has pleased almost nobody... apart, obviously, from all those posters on Amazon *cough cough*. That's one thing the others have over him.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Sept 15, 2005 21:49:14 GMT
You're right, and I blame them too. All of them have messed around with the book instead of doing it properly but at least Pal had the excuse of special effects limitations and people didn't expect so much in 1953. Hines problem has been his grand claims.
I've got no look on Paramount, Pendragon or Asylum but out of them all - Paramount had the resources to do this book justice and as I've said before - if Spielberg had wanted to - he could have given us a masterpiece like LOTR instead of the trash he gave us.
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Post by Rocka on Sept 15, 2005 23:51:05 GMT
Well, this is my first post on any forum EVER! I've been watching developments on these movies on the net for a good couple of years now, and was looking forward to this summer like you would not believe. Thought the paramount one was good. As for Pendragon, well...
Let's just say that I've read all of Hine's responces with great interest. I mean, he's obviously wanted to make this film for ages. And good luck to him.
However, all the bleating in the world about attacks by Tom Cruise (just squirt him with water, Tim!) and Distribution sabotage doesn't alter one simple fact: Your film is AWFUL. Sheer bloody rubbish. How, in the year 2005, did this get through any kind of quality control department? You can only wonder....
Passed it to my Dad the other day. One of my best childhood memories is sittiong with my Dad, outside the paper shop on the way home from school, listening to the bit on the JW album where Richard Burton talk about the Martians being composed entirely of brain.
"You know who should do a film of this?" quoth my Pop, "Steven Spielberg".
That was 1979. 2005 he got his wish and loved the result. He left a message on my answerfone last night when I was in rehearsal. He was laughing.
"This (Pendragon's) film's tremendous, isn't it?
So bad, it won't even be a cult."
Amen, Daddy.
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Post by Spirit of Man on Sept 16, 2005 3:24:59 GMT
I find the part about JW's attorney a little strange. JW's version of the story is a classic, locked in time as a great that jus got a whole lot better. If anything, the Pendragon version jus shows why the JW version is so good. I can’t believe that this sort of thing would have happened. Reading the interview I got the impression that TH believes that his WoTW is the only "justified" version and that all of the others just got in his way. Well, not so much got in his way as tried to sabotage it all at every opportunity they got.............I can imagine JW holding Timbo's arms back, while Spielberg jabs him in the stomach and Latt slaps him round the face with a wet kipper. Well I know what to do if I ever make a film with my limited film making capabilities and it rightly gets slammed....................I'll just blame you guys  |
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Post by recumbentrider on Sept 17, 2005 17:01:24 GMT
After reading this 'interview', this really convinces me what a pathetic man Tim Hines is. I really was willing to cut him a lot of slack before I read it. He makes a horrible movie, and then says that there is some sort of 'conspiracy' that has kept it out of theaters. If he wanted to maintain even a small level of credibility in the film industry, he should have just shut up rather that say the sort of tripe he said in this interview. After this, who will ever take him seriously? All someone has to do is see his 'War of the Worlds Film' and read this interview to see what a liar he really is. This becomes even more evident after reading the 'Dreamwatch' article from 2001 that HC posted on another thread. What investor will ever be willing to risk any money on him after this? This is by no means a 'psychic' prediction, but I am very sure that the movie 'Chrome' will never see the light of day, unless it is as a pasted-together pile of whatever film he might have shot up to now.
It will be interesting to see how he double-talks his way around the 'quality' of the acting and effects in his 'War of the Worlds' film in the second part of the interview.
recumbentrider
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Sept 17, 2005 19:07:54 GMT
I find the part about JW's attorney a little strange. JW's version of the story is a classic, locked in time as a great that jus got a whole lot better. If anything, the Pendragon version jus shows why the JW version is so good. I can’t believe that this sort of thing would have happened. Reading the interview I got the impression that TH believes that his WoTW is the only "justified" version and that all of the others just got in his way. Well, not so much got in his way as tried to sabotage it all at every opportunity they got.............I can imagine JW holding Timbo's arms back, while Spielberg jabs him in the stomach and Latt slaps him round the face with a wet kipper. Well I know what to do if I ever make a film with my limited film making capabilities and it rightly gets slammed....................I'll just blame you guys I find the whole thing bloody strange and I'm keeping an open mind about all this. |
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Post by BrutalDeluxe on Sept 21, 2005 1:22:03 GMT
On a more positive note, our very own Charles gets a mention in there ;D
Obviously Hinesy has never heard the saying "when you point the finger there is three pointing back at you".
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Post by Ashe Raven on Sept 21, 2005 12:37:14 GMT
"Jeff Wayne's attorney, who, by the way, pretends to be a fan with no financial interest in 'War of the Worlds' on the forums, has hit us with several legal maneuvers and legal threats," said Hines. "Every one of their claims was bogus and it was clear to us that they were attempting to draw our focus at a very critical time and/or see what they could get out of us. I've never had any problems with Jeff Wayne prior to that, but I have no respect for the way he has allowed his attorney to behave, on his behalf."
One would say he's risking loosing more money with comments liek that. Why do I get the impression that like your predascor, Mr. E. Wood, your going to end up the same way, only your films wount be crdited as geniuis, but as egotistical nightmares on what should not be done in film making.
Ironic, I think, that you will probebly be a text book example to inspiring film makers in the future in not quite the way you were hoping, Tim.
Now grow up and learn from the mistake. The more you cry the more credibilty you loose (as if there is much left after all this)
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Post by timeship2 on Sept 22, 2005 14:24:55 GMT
He seems to be criticising everyone and the Kitchen Sink. As has been said before, had he not made such a fuss, we would have seen the movie and thought "oh well, not exactly professional is it?" and moved on. He would then quietly dissappear into the background which would allow him the chance to redeem himself in the future, should he so desire with some professionly finished project. (hold the laughter  ) Sadly now, he is just making a complete ass of himself. I always think of a similar situation in that they say that whenever you leave an employer or landlord etc. that no matter how much you disliked them, just to leave quietly since you actually don't want them to remember you for evermore if you can help it. The reason being is that at some future point you may have a chance of a dream job by someone who just may have connections with that former employer etc. Seems Timbo is ignoring that very same advice and making sure he is remembered for all the wrong reasons! |
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