SEAN
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Post by SEAN on Mar 2, 2005 12:09:32 GMT
Hope this does not come across as being patronising but.....
here is a briefish list of some independent cinemas in the UK.
Clapham Picturehouse, London SW4 Gate Cinema London, W11 Greenwich PictureHouse, SE10 Ritzy Brixton London SW2 Stratford Pictturehouse, London E15 Arts Picturehouse, Cambridge Belmont PicturehOuse, Aberdeen Cameo Cinema, Edinburgh City Screen, York Duke of York’s Picturehouse, Brighton Maltings Cinemea, ELY Exeter Picturehouse, East Grinstead Crawley Little Theatre Cinema, Ely Phoneix Picturehouse, Oxford Picturehouse at FACT, Liverpool Stratford upon Avon Picturehouse, Stratford upon Avon Hyde Park Cinema, Leeds
Have not included contact details, as not sure if I am allowed to on this forum. I am personally trying to contact Hyde Park in Leeds to try and maybe drum up some interest. Maybe you can contact these venues direct???
enjoy!
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Post by I own a cylinder on Mar 2, 2005 13:59:24 GMT
YEAH!! YEAH!! GET IT IN CITY SCREEN PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! ;D ;D
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Post by themotile on Mar 2, 2005 15:03:53 GMT
YEAH!! YEAH!! GET IT IN CITY SCREEN PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! ;D ;D Erm...are you sure...? If it was so bad PP have to rent out 5 cinemas themselves is it realy something thats worth begging for...?
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Post by Ashe Raven on Mar 2, 2005 15:57:10 GMT
If, the rumours are true about only 5 cinmeas (thats hardly a world), then, Mr. Hines, are you aware of the WASTED POTENTIAL?
A straight to TV movie then DVD would have been fine. But we had to go for unfounded promises and ambitions. You have a the makings of a great film here otherwise, why and why did you have to leave it to this.
Straight to TV would have een fine, straight to TV....
Of course if the rumours are true.
Rant over
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Post by Balrog on Mar 2, 2005 16:27:38 GMT
I can't wait for it to be released. I'm going to be queuing up outside my local Woolworths all night on the 30th March waiting for the bargain bins to be filled.
Of course they could always change the release date to the 1st April......
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Post by Anthony on Mar 2, 2005 16:39:39 GMT
Where Birmingham on that list. Its the UK's second and city, and its in the middle of the country.
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Iain
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Post by Iain on Mar 2, 2005 18:43:27 GMT
Hi all,
For what its worth, I have e-mailed Harbour Lights at Ocean Village,Southampton my local indie cinema.
I will let you know what happens.
Iain
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Post by dudalb on Mar 2, 2005 19:08:26 GMT
Considering that Jeffrey Welles in the article posted elsewhere contacted all the major indie film distributors in the US and came up dry, I doubt you will have much sucess. But Good Luck.. "If it was so bad PP have to rent out 5 cinemas themselves is it realy something thats worth begging for... Hines in the article denied that he is four walling,since that indeed is a kiss of death (your movie is so bad that no one wants to distribute it) but frankly,based on my two years as a multiplex manager, there is no other way he can get the film in theaters by March 3oth at this point. And the reason it is only five is that four walling is an extremly expensive way of showing your film...three of four times more expensive then the normal manner of distriubution.
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Post by McTodd on Mar 2, 2005 19:12:06 GMT
It's all very well contacting individual cinemas, but what good is that?
Surely contacting the BBFC, as someone else did on another thread, makes far more sense.
Any film shown in a cinema in the UK has to be cleared by the BBFC first - if they ain't heard of it, fuggedaboudit...
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MarkG
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Post by MarkG on Mar 2, 2005 19:26:55 GMT
That's not actually true. As I understand it, to show a film requires permission from the council (and to not violate any laws that would allow the police to seize it), and they usually have a blanket agreement with the cinemas that anything passed by the BBFC can be shown, but in some cases they'll make exceptions. For example 'Crash' was banned in some towns even though it had been censored by the BBFC, and Cambden has allowed movies to be shown that had no BBFC certificate: 'The Texas Chainsaw Massacre' was shown there while still officially 'banned' by the BBFC. Equally, I believe that private cinema clubs can show pretty much any movie that doesn't break the law.
However, unless Hines plans to restrict distribution to the few areas with liberal councils, he will need a BBFC certificate... and certainly will for DVD release.
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Post by themotile on Mar 2, 2005 19:33:30 GMT
Any Brit wanting to see this movie will have to import the DVD. Its as simple as that.
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MarkG
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Post by MarkG on Mar 2, 2005 19:35:45 GMT
I dunno, it might make the 3am slot on Channel Five in a year or two...
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Post by McTodd on Mar 2, 2005 19:40:30 GMT
That's not actually true. As I understand it, to show a film requires permission from the council (and to not violate any laws that would allow the police to seize it), and they usually have a blanket agreement with the cinemas that anything passed by the BBFC can be shown, but in some cases they'll make exceptions. For example 'Crash' was banned in some towns even though it had been censored by the BBFC, and Cambden has allowed movies to be shown that had no BBFC certificate: 'The Texas Chainsaw Massacre' was shown there while still officially 'banned' by the BBFC. Equally, I believe that private cinema clubs can show pretty much any movie that doesn't break the law. However, unless Hines plans to restrict distribution to the few areas with liberal councils, he will need a BBFC certificate... and certainly will for DVD release. True, but can you see Hines & Co contacting local councils? Maybe that's part of his amazing new distribution strategy! I can see him now, sat there with the BT website up on his laptop, phone in hand... "Hello. Is that Sthingyhorpe County Council? Listen, I got this film... Hello? Hello?" EDIT: 'Sthingyhorpe'?!?!?!? I only tried to type 'Scun*thorpe' - it's a real place you know! Bloo*dy puritanical website... Repeat ad nauseam...
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Iain
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Post by Iain on Mar 2, 2005 19:52:52 GMT
Hi all (again),
Right, now I have emailed the MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) to ask if they know anything, or if the film has been submitted for classification ( I have also asked how long it takes for a film to be classified). I don't expect to get a reply, but you never know!!
Iain
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Post by dudalb on Mar 2, 2005 20:59:04 GMT
I am still amazed you need a certificate to show a film in the UK. In the US you are prefectly free to show a film without a MPAA rating. ALmost every film company does apply to get a rating because in most cases unrated equals Porn film and that has a stigma., but except for a few town and cities you don't need a government certificate to show a film...as the adult movie theaters show. I think Hines would get a rating for his film as SOP for a general audience film. but would not be surprised that he forgot that little detail....
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Post by McTodd on Mar 2, 2005 21:10:41 GMT
But the problem here is that you really are convinced that PP intend to release in cinemas 'world wide' when it is blindingly obvious that Hines is a fantasist, well meaning perhaps, but nevertheless with a sense of perspective so completely skewed as to make any of his pronouncements virtually worthless.
At most this film may appear on DVD - random perusals of the DVD racks at HMV show such deathless classics as 'Octopus' and 'Octopus II' (oh, also available from a poundshop and petrol station near you).
But given PP's track record, their amateurish website (which betrays a complete lack of presentational ability - Jesus wept, the movie business is all about fecking presentation!), and the utter bol*locks that streams from them (okay, trickles every once in a blue moon), why on God's own green and lovely earth did anyone ever really think this film would hit the cinemas big time?
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Post by themotile on Mar 2, 2005 22:24:54 GMT
But the problem here is that you really are convinced that PP intend to release in cinemas 'world wide' when it is blindingly obvious that Hines is a fantasist, well meaning perhaps, but nevertheless with a sense of perspective so completely skewed as to make any of his pronouncements virtually worthless. At most this film may appear on DVD - random perusals of the DVD racks at HMV show such deathless classics as 'Octopus' and 'Octopus II' (oh, also available from a poundshop and petrol station near you). But given PP's track record, their amateurish website (which betrays a complete lack of presentational ability - Jesus wept, the movie business is all about fecking presentation!), and the utter bol*locks that streams from them (okay, trickles every once in a blue moon), why on God's own green and lovely earth did anyone ever really think this film would hit the cinemas big time? LOL ;D Well said that man!
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Post by Ashe Raven on Mar 2, 2005 22:49:10 GMT
Hi all, For what its worth, I have e-mailed Harbour Lights at Ocean Village,Southampton my local indie cinema. I will let you know what happens. Iain Wee another Sotoner
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Post by I own a cylinder on Mar 3, 2005 0:41:04 GMT
Erm...are you sure...? If it was so bad PP have to rent out 5 cinemas themselves is it realy something thats worth begging for...? Yeah, coz i live in York and i want to see this film.
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Iain
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Post by Iain on Mar 3, 2005 6:22:49 GMT
Hi,
Well, I had a reply from the MPAA, unfortunatley all they have said is:
'To date we have not classified this film. We give out classification information only after film has been rated, and then give only the rating and the rating reason. Sorry we can't help you further.'
Bugger!
Iain
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