Tell all or keep shtum

[TOMAHAWK]

Given that the supposed released date is close and the amount of post on this topic asking for more info ...I would be interested to know how many of us would like ..

Pendragon to come clean ...display on site everything they have , the tripods, Thunderchild, etc etc ok it will spoil the element of surprise but at least we will have some idea of what to expect

or for Pendragon to say "look we ain't gonna make it March 3oth, but we will release at a later date" and show no further images until nearer that time etc

Personally I can live without the surprise of seeing my first images of the Tripods/Thunderchild in the cinema if it means I have got more information to chew over from Pendragon, I think the time has come for them just to start banging out all sorts of stuff and to heck with the suspense.

[I own a cylinder]

I don''t think that would be good buissness for Pendragon to show everything they have done. The industry doesn't work like that. But it would make sense for them to say well if they are on target to make the release date or not. I remember LXG's release was postponed at the last minuet from August to October.

There really can be no surprise, considering (i assume) all of us have read the story. There can only be interest and expectation. To see how Pendragon have portrayed our favorite scenes.

But i agree. It will not ruin our enjoyment of the story if Pendragon come clean with everything they have. I for one would rather know what they have got as apposed to a false claims.

[timeship2]

I agree, we don't want them revealing everything, after all how many of us have seen trailers which practically showed the entired movie (Well the good parts anyway!).

Still it would have given much more confidence if they had released a trailer which was truly finished instead of something which looked like someone had uploaded half finished during a lunchbreak by accident! The big ben sequence still sticks out like a sore thumb for me.

Considering Pendragon has been somewhat of a mystery for a number of years, I don't think they are about to change that policy now, so I guess, as always, we just have to be patient.

*strums fingers*

[Gray]

What's the incentive for Pdragon to release anything more, when they surely realize that no matter what, it will get bashed on these forums? We're even trashing behind the scenes photos, for Christ's sake.

Some have even said they want to damage Hine's career to the point that he stops making movies. Do you really expect them to cater to that kind of hostility? The argument to release more to instill confidence in the production rings hollow. They just want more red meat.

Lets face it, Pdragon's probably turned us off. And I don't blame them.

[Gnorn]

Gray said:

What's the incentive for Pdragon to release anything more, when they surely realize that no matter what, it will get bashed on these forums? We're even trashing behind the scenes photos, for Christ's sake. ::)

Some have even said they want to damage Hine's career to the point that he stops making movies. Do you really expect them to cater to that kind of hostility? The argument to release more to instill confidence in the production rings hollow. They just want more red meat.

Lets face it, they've probably turned us off. And I don't blame them. :-/

I was thinking along those lines a few times also. I hope it isn't the case.

-Gnorn

[malfunkshun]

that kind of hostility, as you put it, has been countered with a healthy dose of objective opinion on these boards too, in case you haven't noticed

[themotile]

Yeah the opinions of a few geeks on an internet forum realy have the power to shut down a film, how many of us are there debating this movie 50? 100? WOW I bet they have had some sleepless nights about that!

Get real.


I still think Hines should give this up, he would make a better politicion.

[Topaz]

I personally vote for what's behind Door #3, Alex:

Release a second trailer just like they've previously announced, but also announce the name of their distributor, even if they're doing it themselves.

I suspect that would settle a lot of nerves around here, no matter what the thing looks like or what we think of the distribution scheme.

I also have to point out that no, a few 'internet geeks' aren't much in the financial scheme of things for a movie, even one of relatively small budget such as Pendragon's film. I suspect Hines' own hide may be a tad thicker than that, although if this really is the life-long dream he's said, he might be quite sensitive about it.

However, investors are almost universally a fidgety lot, and the postings such as have been here are quite enough to make them skittish, putting undue pressure on what likely is a thoroughly well-intentioned effort. However few of us there may be, they would see us as a 'slice' of the fan base - a representative sample - and assume that all the others they don't hear from are feeling the same.

Just for the record, I'm not saying everyone should be pollyanna "la la la, it's gonna be great." That'd be rediculous. But also understand that your words really are out there for all the world to see, however much we might think it's 'just us.'

I just read an article yesterday about a guy who was recently employed by Google and decided to keep a blog about the experience of working there. He'd had a blog for ages and it never got much traffic. Within a week of starting on about Google he was getting 60,000 hits a day. Google fired him a week after that.

Just consider your thoughts before posting them to where the entire world can see.

[the Donal]

I would think that Pendragon's scedule is now so balls to the wall that they don't even have time to think about the forums and keeping in touch with us.

It is crunch time after all. I bet they're all ageing a year a day at the moment trying to get everything done. Bearing in mind the size of the production team and fact that they aren't employing a seperate PR company, I'm not surprised we're not hearing much at the moment.

Maybe in a couple of weeks, if they have finished all post prod. (optimism folks!) they will get back in touch.... Who knows....

[FALLINGSTAR]

I hope that Pendragon doesn't suddenly panic and decide to show everything because of pressure.

Show us glimpses of special effects and certain scenes that don't give too much away but don't for instance show us the entire fighting machine.

It was great to see the handling machine but I hope that they don't give us any more clear shots apart from a silhouette of the machine walking or a close up of the claws, legs etc.

[Topaz]

the said:

I would think that Pendragon's scedule is now so balls to the wall that they don't even have time to think about the forums and keeping in touch with us.

It is crunch time after all. I bet they're all ageing a year a day at the moment trying to get everything done. Bearing in mind the size of the production team and fact that they aren't employing a seperate PR company, I'm not surprised we're not hearing much at the moment.

No doubt you're right. I've been in that situation, even though I'm in another industry.

The continuing lack of any announcement regarding distribution is starting to concern me, but we won't really know until we either hear from them or March 30th arrives.

Anything else in the meantime is groundless speculation.

[Gnorn]

You know, I don't even really care about other pictures at the moment. All what the fans need now, I think, is a word or two about how the production is coming, and some info about the distribution and the date. I don't know if there's a reason behind not telling as of yet. But shedding a bit of light on this might sway the fans back into more trust. Allthough I still believe in and support this project, my natural-born cynism is starting to sway me towards sceptism about this project, and the fear Mr. Hines cannot pull through to the end. Which I think would be really sad for him, as it seems to be his life-time project and is very passionate about it.

-Gnorn

[heruursmith]

I couldn't agree with you more Gray...

Objective discussion there mat have been, but I'd do what Russell T.Davies has done and ignore the fans when some fans are so hostile and paranoid in their assertations that PP and Mr Hines are a pile of ullaaa...

Kamael

[heruursmith]

Sorry - that posting was an incoherent mess.

What I meant was that Russell T.Davies (The new producer and writer of Dr Who) has said when questioned in interviews about what he will do about fan expectations and opinions that he will ignore them.

I think most fans understood what that meant - even though RTD is a huge Dr Who fan too.

Kamael

[Gnorn]

heruursmith said:

Sorry - that posting was an incoherent mess.

What I meant was that Russell T.Davies (The new producer and writer of Dr Who) has said when questioned in interviews about what he will do about fan expectations and opinions that he will ignore them.

I think most fans understood what that meant - even though RTD is a huge Dr Who fan too.

Kamael

I think I get what you mean. Mr. Hines is folllowing his laid out path no matter what.

And remember, it where the fans that killed off Enterprise.

-Gnorn

[FALLINGSTAR]

heruursmith said:

Sorry - that posting was an incoherent mess.

What I meant was that Russell T.Davies (The new producer and writer of Dr Who) has said when questioned in interviews about what he will do about fan expectations and opinions that he will ignore them.

I think most fans understood what that meant - even though RTD is a huge Dr Who fan too.

Kamael

I still wish he hadn't of put Billie Piper in it though.

[themotile]

Gnorn said:

I think I get what you mean. Mr. Hines is folllowing his laid out path no matter what.

And remember, it where the fans that killed off Enterprise.

-Gnorn

What a bunch of crap, the ratings killed off Enterprise when nobody watched it, from the ultra dire theme tune to the actual format itself it was doomed.

Fans just dont have the power they think they do.

[themotile]

FALLINGSTAR said:

I still wish he hadn't of put Billie Piper in it though.

Billie Piper will be cool dont worry, she actualy quite a good actress.

[Lensman]

Gray said:

What's the incentive for Pdragon to release anything more, when they surely realize that no matter what, it will get bashed on these forums?

Some have even said they want to damage Hine's career to the point that he stops making movies. Do you really expect them to cater to that kind of hostility? The argument to release more to instill confidence in the production rings hollow. They just want more red meat.

Lets face it, Pdragon's probably turned us off. And I don't blame them.

Wow, Gray, this post of yours should be bronzed! Yes, I find it rather mind-boggling that such a large percentage of the posts here in this forum are so negative. I for one am looking forward to Pendragon's movie with great anticipation. A period production of WotW has been #1 on my movie "want" list for decades! (Yes, I am that old.)

I don't expect every single detail of the movie will be exactly like the book. Frankly, only the most fanatic fan would want it to be. Me, I'd rather be surprised! Movies which adhere too closely to a book are bland, like the first 2 Harry Potter movies. I'd rather have an auteur willing to develop the material more creatively, like Peter Jackson did with Lord of the Rings. So long as Hines is true to the *spirit* of Wells' work, I'll be happy.

I still hope to see the film open in a large number of theatres on March 30. But if it's delayed, I'm not gonna start whining about how Hines has "betrayed" us. This film does not belong to us -- it belongs to him. No matter how long we have to wait, Pendragon's WotW will be the most authentic version I'll see in *my* lifetime, of that I am sure.

Good luck to you Mr. Hines, some here are still rooting for you!

[dudalb]

"Fans just dont have the power they think they do. "
I applaud wildly.
If there is one thing that drives me up the walls about fans, it's that they think they have the power to make or break a film. They Don't.
"Enterprise " died because it was a bad show and got bad ratings. That a lot of hardcore Star Trek fans gave up on the show early shows how bad it was. I understand the only reason it stayed on as long as it did was that Paramount needed a minimum number of episodes to be able to syndicate the show.
"I still hope to see the film open in a large number of theatres on March 30. "
Then you really are unaware of the the realities of the film business...like most fans are. There is no freaking way on Earth the film is going to open wide on March 30th.There is not enough time to set up distriubtion. There is not enough time to advertise and market the film. In fact, there is no freaking way it can even get a limited release "Art/Indie House" release on March 3oth at this point.

Sorry, but Hines seems to me like somebody with good intentions who has gotten in over his head with putting out a major motion picture.

"But if it's delayed, I'm not gonna start whining about how Hines has "betrayed" us. "
Sorry, but I don't like being lied to. And Hines is lying about the film being out on March 30th. Just ask anybody in the film business.