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Post by RossH on Feb 10, 2005 17:40:55 GMT
Millions? Yeah right... More like Tim forgot to pay Honest Ron's ISP Services (jingle: Honest Ron, Honest Ron, the others are a con) the 58p a month it costs to host his site. aint-it-cool-news posted a link to the Chrome trailer, THAT'S where all the traffic came from. They certainly didn't mention WOTW!
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Post by themotile on Feb 10, 2005 17:53:08 GMT
maybe so but I cant see it being millions of hits, more in the region of hundreds of thousands if that. Thats enough to clog the bandwidth of a low key site.
Lets be honest though, the website has never been Pendragons strong point.
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Post by VES on Feb 10, 2005 17:59:59 GMT
maybe so but I cant see it being millions of hits, more in the region of hundreds of thousands if that. Thats enough to clog the bandwidth of a low key site. Lets be honest though, the website has never been Pendragons strong point. No argument there, indeed. However, who knows? Perhaps people ended up there while researching info on the Paramount version, no?
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Post by Gray on Feb 10, 2005 18:16:27 GMT
Lets be honest though, the website has never been Pendragons strong point. True that.
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Post by paco417 on Feb 10, 2005 19:20:45 GMT
had a look for myself and yes it seems the site got hit big time, you would have thought that they could have planned for such a occurance!
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Post by Topaz on Feb 11, 2005 0:04:05 GMT
just got this off the site: Due to a recent upsurge in webtraffic totalling in millions of additional hits per day, we have had to make technical adjustments to accomodate the new volume. Please bare with us as we work to handle the new increased interest in our productions. Thank you for you patience in this matter. Personally - and provided this is the actual reason, of course - I see this as an extremely good sign. It means the grass-roots buzz is spreading. Every hit means that the movie is a little more likely to find a major distributor and so find its' way to a 'theater near you.' If Pendragon can go to a distributor and say, "This movie has generated more hits to our website than any movie we've ever done; we had to upgrade our site to accomodate the interest," they've got a much better chance of putting the appropriate $$ signs in the distributor's eyes. Every once in a while, a little indie studio hits it big and the fan buzz finally forces the major media to take notice. Usually, the little studio is caught completely off guard, as none of their previous pictures have ever gotten so much attention. While they may have hoped for a big hit, they can't really prepare for the sudden attention since they have no prior experience with it. This is probably what's happening over at Pendragon. The staff is collectively (and, I hope, gleefully) looking at each other and saying, "Can you believe this? What do we DO?"
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Post by Gnorn on Feb 11, 2005 0:13:33 GMT
Indeed! I realy wish for Mr. Hines that his project will get a lot more of attention and grab the interest of distributors, cinemas and movie-goers around the world. And I realy hope all will come together and make this project succeed in a huge way!
-Gnorn
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Post by McTodd on Feb 11, 2005 12:20:38 GMT
Well, now there's nothing, except:
'Sorry, the site you requested has been disabled'
Ominous...
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Post by I own a cylinder on Feb 11, 2005 12:38:57 GMT
I've thought long and hard about how i feel after this recent turn of events and what things have been said and this is honestly what i think.
I have routed for this project ever since it was first mentioned. Yeah, i was a bit unhappy at the planned modern setting, but seeing concept art of martian and fighting machine convinced me it was going to work in a super way. I waited on it with egar anticipation.
Then when i found that they had scrapped the modern one (for what ever reason, i really didn't care) and were instead going to follow the book in every aspect my wishing well of this jumped three levels and has not really wavered (even if PP are crap at buisness) SO what if it doesn't come out on 30th March. All i want is for it to come out at all. And if it has to be in 3 years time, so be it. I will wait for it. As long as it doesn't never come out.
I understood it has never had super millions of billions poured into it, but at the end of the day i've read all the books. I'm studying the courses. Movies never have enough money, but if the heart is in the right place, and from what i've seen, TIm's heart seems to be in the right place, then the thing can work. The first thing in my mind when i watched the trailer...wow. Someones made War of the Worlds. Not oh that Big Ben scene was crap.
I kinda got excited about the Wayne vehicle too because as a CGI movie, its different.
Then insteped Paramount. I've never had the same enthusiam for this as Tim's or even Waynes. To me, its another 'America gets blown up by invaders', Though i will (subjective) go see it for comparison and understanding.
Now the PP site goes down less than 10 weeks from its release date. I hope it is a server problem and they can get it sorted. Who Knows, they might even be making a whole new website.
But 'If' ( and please note this 'if' word because if Paramount havn't shut down the PP version then this next bit is redundant.)
...Paramount have gotten all snotty over it and jepordised Pendragons movie, then i'm afraid all the publicity in the world won't make me get up instantly to go and see their version. I've got balls of gold spielberg (regardless of how good a director he is) and Cruise can rot.
Sorry...but thats just what i feel at the moment.
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Post by the Donal on Feb 11, 2005 13:28:55 GMT
The thing is, we still don't really know much- all we have is rumours and hearsay regarding Paramount's involvement and even Tim Hines being very ill.
It seems that every time there is a new comment/something changes, everyone jumps to conclusions and starts letting off battle cries/taking stances on the issues.
I know we all have opinions/expectations on this movie, but I am staying relatively calm and patient about it until some more concrete information turns up....
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Post by HTT on Feb 11, 2005 13:35:15 GMT
Yep - 13:20GMT and disabled again!!I think we can safely now say that it is nothing to do with Paramount or Legal issues, but the poor service of the site provision.
I feel really sorry for Tim - the ineffient hosting must be causing worries for him. If no-one can get to the info about his film, how's he supposed to promote and publicise with a month & half to go! Yes, I know there's posters and magazines, but most peoples first stop for details these days if The Web. I stopped buying magazines ages ago due to the ludicrous prices, and rely on the net for movie info.
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Post by dudalb on Feb 11, 2005 20:55:46 GMT
"If no-one can get to the info about his film, how's he supposed to promote and publicise with a month & half to go! Yes," THe film will not be out on March 30th,in the US or anywhere. That is a given. And you cannot, repeat, cannot effecitvely publicise and market a film just using a website. And the film, apparently is far from finished. It is not the delay I mind for Heaven's sake, just admit you won't make the March 30th deadline and don't insult our intelligence . I don't think Hines is being dishonest or this is a hoax but I do think he has gotten in over his head, and is finding out making ,marketing and distriubting a film, even on a indie/art house level, which is what this is, make no mistake, is a lot more complicated then he realised.
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Post by quaderni on Feb 13, 2005 0:45:50 GMT
In all fairness, one should consider the following:
1) Hines's film undoubtedly exists, although the production stage isn't clear. If the rumours about Hines's health are true, that's certainly a mitigating factor and it's obviously, horribly tragic;
2) there are no doubt serious issues with distribution and competition from Paramount, even if SS and Cruise view Hines as small potatoes. The Hollywood mogul business is cut-throat. Advertising, distribution, and distribution rights are everything. Remember Adrian Lynne's _Lolita_? The film, whatever its merits, was a major film from a major director but it was blackballed and never saw the light of the release date. If Pendragon encounters serious resistance and/or cannot organize, they might sell the film, as pointed out, to a TV/cable network. Seriously, it looks like it has the quaint charm of a BBC production anyway. I might add, also, that every year Hollywood makes many films, some of them high-budget, that never see the light of release - in any medium. One example was an odd corss-dressing film with Matt Leblanc and Eddie Izzard (go figure) that never even went to video. You'd think that would have an audience. I only know this because I had friends who worked on that movie.
3) PP's website went down after last Sunday's Superbowl advertisements. The ads, no doubt, caused millions of people to google Paramount's 'War of the Worlds' and Pendragon's site thus got flooded. And yeah, Paramount isn't happy about those consumers seeing Hines's ads.
Pendragon is obviously a small, art-house like sci-fi film production company with limited resources, no distributors, no legal clout, and no recognition and no power in the film industry. Duh. Whatever the merits or problems with Hines's production, he has obviously staked the entire future of this little company on the success of his _War of the Worlds_. For better or for worse, Wells's fans - and sci-fi fans in general - should cheer him on, simply becasue we're decent fans and decent people. It doesn't mean we have to like it, or it doesn't mean we have to take sides.
I've stated over and over again that SS and Hines won't fulfill our expectations. I've also stated that I think Hines at least has the virtue of trying to be authentic, whatever the final outcome. I've been branded a cynic and a nay-sayer (as well as a pretentious aesthete), but I'm simply pointing out the bloody obvious.
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Post by malfunkshun on Feb 13, 2005 0:58:53 GMT
well hell, lets see it on cable then. as long as its letterboxed. and as long as we get to see it!
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Post by Gnorn on Feb 13, 2005 1:03:59 GMT
well hell, lets see it on cable then. as long as its letterboxed. and as long as we get to see it! Exactly! Allthough I really would like to see it at the theatre, I wouldn't mind if it becomes a TV movie. As long as we fans get to see it, and as long as Mr. Hines gets the recognition he deserves! -Gnorn
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Post by VES on Feb 13, 2005 1:27:02 GMT
Exactly! Allthough I really would like to see it at the theatre, I wouldn't mind if it becomes a TV movie. As long as we fans get to see it, and as long as Mr. Hines gets the recognition he deserves! -Gnorn Wait for it, mate; it's going to be a "Sci-Fi Original" on the Sci-Fi channel.
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Post by timeship2 on Feb 13, 2005 1:56:19 GMT
You *that* optimistic eh?
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Post by Gerkinman on Feb 13, 2005 10:35:50 GMT
Lets not forget what happened with the 1st Star Wars movie, they predicted certain doom, no cinemas wanted it on there screens, now look at it. And low budget doesnt mean low quality. Look at Easy Rider, tho that had very little Special Effects i guess, it was still done on the super cheap and is in my opinion one of the greatest movies of all time.
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Post by I own a cylinder on Feb 13, 2005 21:55:56 GMT
;D Goody, The sites back.
Has anyone read the 'Gurilla Film Making Guides'. This is a perfect example of the kind of things that describes. Film Making is never easy (at least its not supposed to be) Its a major headache which requires loads of Coffee. The majority of inde and low budget film makers have such a hard time to make the films they wanna make.
Pendragons like Living Spirit pictures. Small and limited. Competing in a world of Big Boys like Paramount.
Some times, the lie needs to be told to achieve the goal.
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