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Post by jeffwaynefan on Nov 9, 2006 12:31:14 GMT
What are your opinions on the "live" version of The Prologue. Do you like it or dislike it?.
I like it. It works for the "live" show but glad that it was not put into the 2005 re-release SACD. To me 'The Prologue' for the live show sets up what is about to happen. After all, the martians fear us more than we fear them and it gives anyone a good insight as to why the martians are coming to earth, in the same way that H.G did in 'The Eve Of The War' chapter for the novel.
But I can undestand if people dont like it, as it has been expressed to me over the last few months.
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Post by HTT on Nov 9, 2006 12:53:28 GMT
[glow=purple,2,300]I think it worked very well. The revamped animation was stunning, and it was nice to see the PC intro integrated into the whole work (shame the PC ending wasn't also adapted for the epilogue). Also, it gave time for the audience to quieten down before RBs speech.
It was nice to have a proper overture like most musicals do - remember, RBs opening speech was originally overlaid with music. The only problem I have with the prologue is the continuity error - if the Biosphere is failing, by the time of the epilogue (100+ years later) how did they combat that, as well as developing new machines, tactics and anti-bacterial measures. [/glow]
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Post by Ashe Raven on Nov 9, 2006 13:44:32 GMT
Giving the Martians a human quality destroyed it a little for me. If they had kept in the psychic execution of the elder I may have been more forving as it more than adequetly gave across the desperation better than the council alone.
I'm not sure, but then I knwo the story back to front, so in many ways I don't need the prolouge quite as much as a newcomer I suppose.
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Post by Spirit of Man on Nov 9, 2006 18:05:36 GMT
I quite liked its inclusion, being a fan of the PC game, I really enjoyed seeing the Martian intro and how it fit into the scenario.
I suppose that anything created in the world of Jeff Waynes War of the Worlds is fair game to be included in any of the versions as im sure Jeff's vetted everything from artwork, new machines, storylines etc........ So I suppose its safe to say that the prologue is as relevent to Jeffs verson as anything else that bears his name.
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Post by hkev on Nov 9, 2006 18:44:43 GMT
I didn't know it was from the game !
I liked it, anything that extended the running time of the show was fine by me. It was also nice to have something new just for the show (although I now know it isn't)
Wonder if Jeff will have any surprises for us in the 2007 shows...
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Post by the Donal on Nov 9, 2006 19:54:13 GMT
I had opinions on this before I'd seen it- to me, it adds too much of a humanising quality to the martians and gives them away too early- detracting from the fear that so got into my nightmares as a child.
Having said that, I expected it to be a little cheesy when I first heard about it (I never played the PC version). I was actually very impressed when I saw the prologue at the show0- it's really well put together.
I nearly bought the special edition at HMV today, but will play sensible and buy it online after payday...
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Nov 9, 2006 19:56:14 GMT
If this is the bit with the Martians speaking English - then definitely a BIG no! They didn't speak English in the book and it drags things into the realms of silliness.
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Post by Zoë on Nov 9, 2006 20:29:08 GMT
I say yes. I liked it.
I cant really think of good reasons like everyone else, but im happy for it to be there.
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Post by Spirit of Man on Nov 10, 2006 14:00:20 GMT
I think one thing to bear in mind, is that their not actually talking with their mouths, more telepathy and we're listening in to it. So they arent as much talking in perfect english as thinking in pefect Martian and hearing it translated................ in their mental voices............. or somethin.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Nov 10, 2006 17:03:03 GMT
I think one thing to bear in mind, is that their not actually talking with their mouths, more telepathy and we're listening in to it. So they arent as much talking in perfect english as thinking in pefect Martian and hearing it translated................ in their mental voices............. or somethin. I know, but it still comes across as a bit B movie-ish.
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Nov 10, 2006 17:37:00 GMT
I can see why they used the original samples. If they changed the voice to something unrecognisable, they would have to use subtitles. It would look good, but not for those who have eyesight problems.
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Nov 10, 2006 17:37:54 GMT
I think one thing to bear in mind, is that their not actually talking with their mouths, more telepathy and we're listening in to it. So they arent as much talking in perfect english as thinking in pefect Martian and hearing it translated................ in their mental voices............. or somethin. I know, but it still comes across as a bit B movie-ish. But it's not a movie, its a multimedia show
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Nov 10, 2006 17:52:03 GMT
I know, but it still comes across as a bit B movie-ish. But it's not a movie, its a multimedia show True! Just me thinking about the film there.
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Post by Max on Nov 10, 2006 20:49:41 GMT
NO! Takes away the mystery and whole "alieneshness" of the buggers
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Nov 10, 2006 21:03:02 GMT
NO! Takes away the mystery and whole "alieneshness" of the buggers My thoughts exactly! I can sort of handle that clip in this dvd release but I want the Martians to be mysterious like they are in the book - for the film.
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Post by Killraven on Nov 12, 2006 3:28:11 GMT
I agree with Donal, Max and FS on this one... The sequence was executed brilliantly, but on balance I'd rather not have it. It both makes the martians appear more human, introducing the concept of conscience, and also gives reasons for why the invasion took place. I'd much rather not know as to me the mystery of the invaders helps the flow of the story and both enhances the horror of the martians and minimises any thoughts of sympathy.
KR
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Post by Zoë on Nov 13, 2006 15:38:51 GMT
Im just watching it again, and I love it I really do. Im glad its not been on the cd version but for the live version I think its a really good thing to add.
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Nov 13, 2006 15:47:49 GMT
But are we no differant than the Martians?. H.G says during the chapter of 'The Eve Of The War' that we should not judge the martians too harshly and this is what Jeff has done. We cannot deny that the martians have a reason to come to Earth, have a reason to rid us off this planet, have a reason to fear us. Afterall the wars that man has waged across this planet, the martians have been watching us all along and knowing they need our planet, fear us and so turned back to creating weapons.
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Post by Ashe Raven on Nov 13, 2006 16:21:01 GMT
Well on an evolutionary scale they are very different. Remember he also said "minds that are to our minds as ours are to beasts of the Earth."
In many ways their way of thinking should also have evloved into something either more advanced "Telepathy" being one answer, or to something far more bestial and nesscary in order to survive, sacrificing sentience and spirit for logic and adaptation.
I'm not sure that Wayne realy had any right to destroy a perfectly good mystery best left unexplained and open to interpretation. (Other than the fact "he owns the rights")
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Post by Zoë on Nov 13, 2006 16:26:14 GMT
he has not destroyed anything.
I mean theres that track on ulladubulla which is basically the prologue, its not like its a new thing.
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