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Post by Commandingtripod on May 28, 2006 4:11:47 GMT
Was there a reason that in this movie, there was little if no scences of Human Vs Alien conflicts?
I mean, even Pendragon (Even though they're pretty bad shots) had fight scenes.
Did they run out of time, couldn't be bothered (Which I think is highly unlikely), wanted us to imagine the fights or something else?
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Post by deadsword on May 28, 2006 5:14:58 GMT
I just wonder what would have happened once the aliens in the basement saw the three hiding in there. they did not seem to h ave any weaponry on the, the aliens i mean.
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Post by Commandingtripod on May 28, 2006 5:16:29 GMT
I just wonder what would have happened once the aliens in the basement saw the three hiding in there. they did not seem to h ave any weaponry on the, the aliens i mean. Run off and level the house with their tripods?
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Post by Topaz on May 28, 2006 6:49:21 GMT
Was there a reason that in this movie, there was little if no scences of Human Vs Alien conflicts? ... Did they run out of time, couldn't be bothered (Which I think is highly unlikely), wanted us to imagine the fights or something else? Spielberg wanted to focus on the warm, touching, human drama, not the actual invasion. Wells used the invasion as a vehicle for social commentary while Spielberg used it as a mere backdrop his vision of a dysfunctional family becoming close and loving again through the magic of a bad screenplay. I don't think he really cared about the 'martian invasion' per se, but rather how he could use it to talk about people. He would've considered any significant shots of actual combat to be a distraction from the message.
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Post by Luperis on May 28, 2006 7:24:07 GMT
I just wonder what would have happened once the aliens in the basement saw the three hiding in there. they did not seem to h ave any weaponry on the, the aliens i mean. Run off and level the house with their tripods? Offer them tea and biscuits and have a discussion in which they compare salaries, get annoyed when they find out that everyone else in the movie is being payed FAR more than them... then level the house... and the studio... and chase Cruise and Spielberg with an army of tripods demanding equal pay and compensation for the damage their reputation suffered from being in the movie ;D
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Post by uuulllaaa on May 28, 2006 10:52:26 GMT
I believe that the idead to not show you too many tripods and fighting scenes was down to the rushed shooting time ,im really convinced of that ,the script was written with minimal fx needed.A movie of this scale should have been given the care and attention that lord of the rings or kong did.
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Post by Tripod on May 28, 2006 11:54:40 GMT
It's based on the less-is-more principle, like in Jaws you're mind starts to imagine the things for you. That way you can still use your own imagination in this movie. It didn't bother me that much.
Tripod
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Post by wotwfan48 on May 28, 2006 14:42:31 GMT
I believe that the idead to not show you too many tripods and fighting scenes was down to the rushed shooting time ,im really convinced of that ,the script was written with minimal fx needed.A movie of this scale should have been given the care and attention that lord of the rings or kong did. I am completly with you on that one, There should have been, more about the surviving of Humain race, what they do to stay alive, during the invasion, encounter between humain and Aliens in the basement would be appropriate. And a lot more scenes with the tripods, and how humain try to fight them. These tripod looked scary, and SS should have showed them, a lot more especially, in more than one citys, with humain trying to survives, and find a way to respond. This could have been an Epic, if SS did more. Chantale.
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Post by RustiSwordz on May 29, 2006 1:29:38 GMT
the whole point can be summed up in 2 words: Tom Cruise.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on May 29, 2006 1:59:11 GMT
the whole point can be summed up in 2 words: Tom Cruise. That's the reason Commandingtripod!
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Post by Commandingtripod on May 29, 2006 9:11:05 GMT
the whole point can be summed up in 2 words: Tom Cruise. That's the reason Commandingtripod! Ah of course! TC was the reason that there weren't many fight scenes with the aliens because TC wanted the camera on him most of the time! Brilliant work guys.
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Post by nervouspete on May 29, 2006 12:58:41 GMT
Mind you, there's a logical reason too.
The entire film revolves around the narrator, as in the book. If he kept on bumping into tripods, it'd be increasingly implausible that he'd keep surviving these brushes with them. We've got his escape at the intersection, the first basement, the ferry, the hill and farmhouse, the basket and then the end confrontation - if we threw another couple of brushes in there we might grow a little sceptical at just how Cruise is managing to avoid all this random death.
Of course, Camelot SHOULD have been in there, and for the life in my I can't work out why they cut it.
It's got nothing to do with Cruise's screen time either, or the budget. If you look at Close Encounters of the Third Kind the alien appearances in that are rationed as well. The big difference that we readers of the book find is that there is no brother p.o.v character to cram in extra-nasty tripod action, which is a bit of a shame as well - imagine if it started cutting to the lovely Miranda Otto in Boston and her experiences, how cool would that be?
Ultimately I still very much like this film. Yes, it could have been better and David Koep's script was somewhat flimsy, but it still conveyed a very good depiction of alien horror. I just wish Spielberg had taken a shot at writing it himself, like Close Encounters, and we might have had a better and tougher film.
As for human versus alien conflict, it was through the dad's eyes and since for the sake of his kids he's avoiding them we naturally won't see this. The closest we get is on the hill, and it's a big question as to whether Spielberg should have shown us the other side of that hill.
Overall it had enough tripod stuff for me though, you show too much and the threat begins to lessen. Even when the tripods weren't there you felt their presence through the overall atmosphere of fear. All those landscape shots and low angles, you'd find yourself wondering when they were next going to pop into frame. Good stuff.
So, film still 8/10 for me. (Observent folk will find that down from 9/10 from my very first 'hours after first viewing' review.)
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Post by David Faltskog on May 29, 2006 13:06:36 GMT
Good review nervouspete although admitting to liking the movie on here is pretty dangerous as i,ve found out. Still good on yer. D.F.
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Post by RustiSwordz on May 29, 2006 13:12:34 GMT
Good review nervouspete although admitting to liking the movie on here is pretty dangerous as i,ve found out. Still good on yer. D.F. NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUASITION! (Cardinal Rusti talks in a very 'tache twirling evil like way) so DF you like this movie yes... Cardinal Fallingstar, get the COMFY CHAIR!
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on May 29, 2006 15:49:39 GMT
One comfy chair coming right up! Mwahahahahahaha!!!!!
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Post by nervouspete on May 29, 2006 16:52:14 GMT
You can try to supress the truth, Cardinals, but there will come a day! Yes, there will... ooh, nice cushions... there will come a day when... no, I wouldn't mind a custard creme, thanks... what was I saying? Oh, yes, there will come a... no, a footrest wouldn't go amiss at all, thank you! Anyway...
Oh no! Feathers!
But yes, I still hold by this movie David, and remarkably enough by ol' Cruises' performance - despite him doing everything in real life to annoy me.
"Say it aloud! I like Steven Spielberg's War of the Worlds and I'm proud!"
Or, say it by this catchy and memorable acronym:
"SiaIlSSWotWaIp!"
(Actually, saying that out loud only makes you sound like backwards talking man from Twin Peaks. Heigh-ho)
"TMWRNJ!"
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Post by RustiSwordz on May 30, 2006 6:33:16 GMT
I can talk backwards too... .akcollob rettu si sdlrow eht fo raw sgrebleipS
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Post by Poyks on May 30, 2006 11:37:33 GMT
!egaugnaL
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Post by RustiSwordz on May 30, 2006 12:45:49 GMT
omal
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Post by jeffwaynefan on May 30, 2006 13:29:39 GMT
yendoR kcitspid ouY
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