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Post by kurt on Apr 22, 2005 11:46:51 GMT
Hey! i mailed Asylum offering my services as a composer. They sent me a (quite blunt) email today though telling me that Ralph Rieckermann of the scorpions is doing it now instead. oh well, their loss! Im realy not sure about this film, but im gonna wait till i see before making judgement . It does feel a bit like being a kid in a sweet shop with all these versions coming out at once though!
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Post by ThunderchildIV on Apr 22, 2005 13:21:34 GMT
Hey! i mailed Asylum offering my services as a composer. They sent me a (quite blunt) email today though telling me that Ralph Rieckermann of the scorpions is doing it now instead. oh well, their loss! Im realy not sure about this film, but im gonna wait till i see before making judgement . It does feel a bit like being a kid in a sweet shop with all these versions coming out at once though! WTF, not exactly going to say yes. This is not a fan film you know.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 22, 2005 13:42:54 GMT
WTF, not exactly going to say yes. This is not a fan film you know. LOL Perhaps you could email Pendragon Pics they could use an extra drum machine basher. Or maybe Jeff Wayne's version they could do with a film composer... wait a minuite what am i saying!!!!? ;D
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Apr 22, 2005 19:09:08 GMT
HG WELLS WAR OF THE WORLDS an epic production of HG WELLS book with music by er............cheesy Eurorocker Ralph Rieckerman. Complete with permed hair and dodgy moustache!
Maybe he'll shove a bit of Blackout or ultra naff ballad - Winds of Change in there too. Complete with whistling!
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Post by Bayne on Apr 23, 2005 0:29:50 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]LOL Still, I used to know a composer who was an ex member of a punk rock and later New Romantic group in the eighties and certainly her tv and documentary soundtrack compositions were very different from what you'd expect. [/glow]
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Post by themaster on Apr 23, 2005 16:08:26 GMT
The cheesy 70's rock band Toto did the sound track to Dune which was amazing so we cant judge until we actualy hear the sound track.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 23, 2005 16:12:07 GMT
yeah dune was a cool film and i loved the soundtrack.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Apr 23, 2005 19:43:06 GMT
I might be wrong but even though Toto are always largely credited for the soundtrack to Dune, the best part of the soundtrack - The Prophecy Theme, which for those who don't know was the brilliant opening orchestral theme music to the film - was done by Brian Eno.
I haven't watched it for ages but I seem to remember that some of the guitar sounding music later on in the film was done by Toto. It was half decent I suppose but I would have much prefered it wasn't in there as I just didn't think it was really appropriate for an epic like Dune. And I certainly don't think music like that is appropriate for a film called WOTWORLDS.
Incidently an extended dvd version of Dune was recently cancelled or delayed and there are rumours that it was delayed because the director David Lynch wants to be involved in a new directors cut. Something he said he would never do - so I hope it's true.
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Post by themaster on Apr 23, 2005 20:22:50 GMT
I might be wrong but even though Toto are always largely credited for the soundtrack to Dune, the best part of the soundtrack - The Prophecy Theme, which for those who don't know was the brilliant opening orchestral theme music to the film - was done by Brian Eno. I haven't watched it for ages but I seem to remember that some of the guitar sounding music later on in the film was done by Toto. It was half decent I suppose but I would have much prefered it wasn't in there as I just didn't think it was really appropriate for an epic like Dune. And I certainly don't think music like that is appropriate for a film called WOTWORLDS. Incidently an extended dvd version of Dune was recently cancelled or delayed and there are rumours that it was delayed because the director David Lynch wants to be involved in a new directors cut. Something he said he would never do - so I hope it's true. Brian Eno (along with Roger Eno and Danial Lanois) was responsible for one track, track 9 of the sound track "PROPHECY THEME", although a beutiful piece in itself TOTO was responsible for everything else, a truly outstanding soundtrack that makes the film, you have such tracks as "Paul meets Chani" or "Paul takes the water of life" or even "trip to Arrakis" even the Prologue and main title were by TOTO. My point being we cant judge the sound track until we hear it because we may tend to prejudge the music based on our perceptions of "Ralph Rieckermann of the scorpions" previous works. If you prejudged thre Dune soundtrack based on the previous works by TOTO you would not only be mistaken but you also get a suprise. A little bit of Dune trivia...the movie was originaly five hours long! They cut out almost three hours, adding another 35 minutes from the cutting room floor for the TV version (thats the one with the male intro and the explanation of the Jihad against thinking machines) so any 'directors cut' could be a hugely different film, maybe hours longer which would mean a whole new sound track!
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 23, 2005 20:59:47 GMT
so any 'directors cut' could be a hugely different film, maybe hours longer which would mean a whole new sound track! that would be something...
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Post by themaster on Apr 23, 2005 21:05:10 GMT
that would be something... Fingers crossed my friend, fingers crossed! ;D
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Post by themaster on Apr 23, 2005 21:08:17 GMT
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Apr 23, 2005 21:17:57 GMT
Wayhey, some other people who (a) liked Lynch's 'Dune', and (b) loved Toto's soundtrack! I think Toto did a great job, it had an epic feel to it, and was a nice contrast to Eno's atmospheric, haunting Prophecy track. The Giger designs were for Jodorowsky's aborted 'Dune' project from the early 1970s. There were several production designers, Jodorowsky having the idea of getting each one to design a different planet. So Giger designed the Harkonnen planet, and the sandworms of Arrakis, whilst Moebius (of 'Metal Hurlant' fame) designed the Emperor's planet Kaitain; Chris Foss designed various spacecraft; and I can't remember who else was involved! Magnificently bizarrely, Salvador Dali was to play the Emperor! EDIT: So much for my memory, I found this site - www.duneinfo.com/index.asp - which is fantastic, and very informative, and so it transpires that Chris Foss also designed the Emperor's planet, whilst Moebius was the costume designer and storyboardist. Anyway, browse the site at your leisure, it's wonderful!
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Post by themaster on Apr 23, 2005 21:40:03 GMT
Harkonnens designed by Giger, sheesh what a perfect concept.....damn Lynch for not thinking of it!
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 23, 2005 21:59:58 GMT
Wayhey, some other people who (a) liked Lynch's 'Dune', and (b) loved Toto's soundtrack! I think Toto did a great job, it had an epic feel to it, and was a nice contrast to Eno's atmospheric, haunting Prophecy track. The Giger designs were for Jodorowsky's aborted 'Dune' project from the early 1970s. There were several production designers, Jodorowsky having the idea of getting each one to design a different planet. So Giger designed the Harkonnen planet, and the sandworms of Arrakis, whilst Moebius (of 'Metal Hurlant' fame) designed the Emperor's planet Kaitain; Chris Foss designed various spacecraft; and I can't remember who else was involved! Magnificently bizarrely, Salvador Dali was to play the Emperor! yeah i know. lynch's vision was brilliant but just imagine the aborted version!
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Apr 23, 2005 22:09:54 GMT
Yeah, although Jodorowsky mucked about with the plot a fair bit, I think, it would have been an experience! I think he got the rights to it around 1975, so if he'd actually made it, considering it would probably have taken a while to film, it may have been released in 1977, perhaps at much the same time as 'Star Wars' - imagine that!
That site I linked has this to say about casting:
Orson Welles as Baron Harkonnen! How odd, a WotW connection there... ;D
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Apr 24, 2005 2:07:25 GMT
Brian Eno (along with Roger Eno and Danial Lanois) was responsible for one track, track 9 of the sound track "PROPHECY THEME", although a beutiful piece in itself TOTO was responsible for everything else, a truly outstanding soundtrack that makes the film, you have such tracks as "Paul meets Chani" or "Paul takes the water of life" or even "trip to Arrakis" even the Prologue and main title were by TOTO. My point being we cant judge the sound track until we hear it because we may tend to prejudge the music based on our perceptions of "Ralph Rieckermann of the scorpions" previous works. If you prejudged thre Dune soundtrack based on the previous works by TOTO you would not only be mistaken but you also get a suprise. A little bit of Dune trivia...the movie was originaly five hours long! They cut out almost three hours, adding another 35 minutes from the cutting room floor for the TV version (thats the one with the male intro and the explanation of the Jihad against thinking machines) so any 'directors cut' could be a hugely different film, maybe hours longer which would mean a whole new sound track! Looks like I've wrongly perceived the main opening title music to be called the prophecy theme but I'm sure I've read somewhere that the main title theme wasn't done by Toto. Again I'm most probably wrong but if it was them they certainly did a good job. Great music! I've read that about the rumoured 5 hour cut but I've also read on another site that nowhere near that amount of extra film exists. I can't remember how much they said could be added though. I'll have to look for that site. If they do release a directors cut version of it - I hope they do something about the dated looking special effects. There's some pretty bad shots in there with thick prominent matte lines and the sandworms look pretty unconvincing too
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Apr 24, 2005 12:14:12 GMT
Eno's Prophecy Theme is the spooky piece that accompanies someone or other having visions during the film proper, it is not the main theme - that is Toto's work. You may very well have read that the Eno piece is the opening track, but whoever wrote that is dead wrong.
As for the special effects, some shots do look bad on the VHS recording. That's because VHS is so generally shoddy and incapable of handling subtle colour gradations that it slaughters a lot of what you see. I've got the VHS recording, the first release on DVD and the Special Edition from last year. The DVD editions were not mucked about with or enhanced, other than by having a damn good transfer made. Many scenes that look bad on VHS are infinitely better on the DVD version - believe me, I've played the old compare-and-contrast game!
Indeed, I saw Dune twice at the cinema in 1985 (mainly because some half-witted gibbering children in the cinema ruined my first viewing) and the effects were excellent (not uniformly so, but more than Dune's reputation might suggest) - I always regarded the VHS release as particularly poor.
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Post by David Faltskog on Apr 24, 2005 12:20:02 GMT
Ever seen the extended cut of Dune, which Lynch disavowed and had his name removed from?.
Got this on DVD and kurious to know what other's think, i quite like it myself aside from some of the cut's made to the more violent scenes from the movie.
D.F.
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Post by themaster on Apr 24, 2005 16:59:31 GMT
Ever seen the extended cut of Dune, which Lynch disavowed and had his name removed from?. Got this on DVD and kurious to know what other's think, i quite like it myself aside from some of the cut's made to the more violent scenes from the movie. D.F. Is that the TV version? That had an extra 35 minutes and the worst prologue, I much prefered the 'emporers daughter' prologue.
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