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Post by Ashe Raven on Jul 5, 2005 8:38:27 GMT
Are going to go into debates about dictonary terms and grammer now? If so it's pretty petty don't you think?
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Post by coolerking on Jul 5, 2005 8:51:17 GMT
Re: the ID4 reference.
Sorry to jump in like this, but one thing that's always bothered me, regarding the complaints about the 'computer virus' cooked up by Jeff Goldblum in the movie, is that the humans already KNEW the aliens' computers were compatible with Earth computers. The aliens were able to use the signals transmitted by the satellites to 'link up', as it were, so that would seem to at least imply that their tech, while advanced, was at least semi-compatible with ours. The implications of such a 'convenient' fact, I'll leave to the rest of you.
By the way, I'm a long-time lurker, first-time poster (sorry, HAD to say it!)
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Post by <[Iron Man]> on Jul 5, 2005 12:59:19 GMT
I loved the Spielberg movie, but just why wouldn't a period version be just as terrifying? We've tried to convince Iron Man on this point before. I guess he's so in love with modern weaponry that he just can't enjoy a period piece. Too bad for him, but it seems it's pointless to debate him on this. I wouldn't say i'm 'in love' with Modern Weaponry, no more than you'd be 'in love' with Jared Diamond. If i watch a period piece WOTW, i'll only be entertained, if i watch a modern one i'll be entertained and terrified. Not all of us are going to 'love' a modern version, likewise not all of us will 'love' a period one either. It comes down to peoples personal taste, sorry if i don't enjoy a period piece as much but it's my choice.
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Post by Refugee on Jul 5, 2005 14:49:00 GMT
bittersound,
It was meant to be but I think it has been taken the wrong way, whoops lol.
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Post by Lensman on Jul 5, 2005 16:37:41 GMT
Sorry to jump in like this, but one thing that's always bothered me, regarding the complaints about the 'computer virus' cooked up by Jeff Goldblum in the movie, is that the humans already KNEW the aliens' computers were compatible with Earth computers. The aliens were able to use the signals transmitted by the satellites to 'link up', as it were, so that would seem to at least imply that their tech, while advanced, was at least semi-compatible with ours. My goodness. That's the first time I've ever seen/heard anyone try to defend that ludicrious event in ID4! For heaven's sake, it was less than 24 hours from when they even had a sample of the aliens' language to when an effective computer virus was made! Tell you what: YOU find some computer whiz and give him 24 hours to design a virus that actually *functions* for an operating system and a computer language he's never even heard of before. Get back to us when you find someone who's even willing to *try* that, let alone succeed. And also, find a language expert who's willing to try to translate enuff of a language using an alphabet he's never even seen before, within 24 hours to be able to understand how a computer works in that language. Good luck with that... Now I do enjoy the movie "Independence Day" and have it on DVD. But I'm under no illusion that its "reality level" is better than comic-book.
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Post by Chris on Jul 5, 2005 21:41:34 GMT
Yes that might be true, but having more of Wells' spirit behind it doesn't change the fact that the Pendragon version is a terrible movie.
I mean, if me and a couple of friends decided to make a 100%, true to the books adaptation of Tolkeins LOTR trilogy in my back garden using pots and pans as armour and weapons, would it automatically be a better film than the ones Jackson made, simply because ours was 100% accurate to the original text? Of course not.
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Post by coolerking on Jul 6, 2005 20:52:09 GMT
My goodness. That's the first time I've ever seen/heard anyone try to defend that ludicrious event in ID4! For heaven's sake, it was less than 24 hours from when they even had a sample of the aliens' language to when an effective computer virus was made! Tell you what: YOU find some computer whiz and give him 24 hours to design a virus that actually *functions* for an operating system and a computer language he's never even heard of before. Get back to us when you find someone who's even willing to *try* that, let alone succeed. And also, find a language expert who's willing to try to translate enuff of a language using an alphabet he's never even seen before, within 24 hours to be able to understand how a computer works in that language. Good luck with that...
Now I do enjoy the movie "Independence Day" and have it on DVD. But I'm under no illusion that its "reality level" is better than comic-book. Good point. I wasn't trying to actually DEFEND the movie, though. Just pointing out that it was technically possible (not within the timeframe of the movie, though, I'll grant you that), especially given the ''comic book" reality level you mention. I'll also freely admit that I know next to nothing about the design or implementation of computer viruses, so feel free to shoot me down. Sorry for the interruption... now back to War of the Worlds, already in progress...
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Post by rich on Nov 17, 2005 21:40:50 GMT
Hey me again. this is proberbly goin to piss some of you of but if you liked the steven spileberg film then your not a true fan of the book! This may sound odd but im writing a scrpit myself for war of the worlds, and its set in the 19th centry in England and its going to be a lot scaryer than this s**ty film.
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Nov 17, 2005 23:14:59 GMT
Rich.See my reply to this exact same post in the 'WTF' thread in 'General Discussion'...
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1953
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Post by 1953 on Nov 18, 2005 2:26:49 GMT
I said in the review thread that it aint the war of the worlds I know but I still liked the film I like the musical and the 1953 film and I have the book sort of, its on tape as spoken word. So this doesnt make me a fan I think it does ;D It doesnt matter if speilberg or Asylum or whoever makes a war of the worlds film that doesnt exactly follow the book, and it always says in the credits "based on the novel by HG Wells" so people will find out about the book and read it if they want. Also theres a musical version, four or five films and a tv series amongst other things and you can bet there will be god knows how many more remakes to come in the future. That fact shows how popular and loved his novel is Not bad for a story over 100 years old.
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Post by marciano on Nov 19, 2005 14:29:47 GMT
I´m agree: This film is a totally Crap.
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Post by maniacs on Nov 20, 2005 0:36:46 GMT
Well said ashe.
It does sometimes seem people read a novel once and think they are experts.
The bacteria idea is plausible anyway. For years scientists think life on any planet HAS to follow the same conceptions as on terra.
Perhaps the martians took precautions(not condoms) but still came a croppa cause Earthy bacteria is different from long dead baceria!
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Post by maniacs on Nov 20, 2005 0:40:49 GMT
Iron man,
were you terrified by Lord of the Rings! I bet not. War of the Worlds was written over 100 years ago where the appearance of a naked table leg would cause men to swoon!!!
This film should not be treated like a gory horror. It has gone beyond. It is as Goerge Lucas would say ' a modern legend'
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Post by maniacs on Nov 20, 2005 0:46:44 GMT
Sorry to jump in like this, but one thing that's always bothered me, regarding the complaints about the 'computer virus' cooked up by Jeff Goldblum in the movie, is that the humans already KNEW the aliens' computers were compatible with Earth computers. The aliens were able to use the signals transmitted by the satellites to 'link up', as it were, so that would seem to at least imply that their tech, while advanced, was at least semi-compatible with ours. My goodness. That's the first time I've ever seen/heard anyone try to defend that ludicrious event in ID4! For heaven's sake, it was less than 24 hours from when they even had a sample of the aliens' language to when an effective computer virus was made! Tell you what: YOU find some computer whiz and give him 24 hours to design a virus that actually *functions* for an operating system and a computer language he's never even heard of before. Get back to us when you find someone who's even willing to *try* that, let alone succeed. And also, find a language expert who's willing to try to translate enuff of a language using an alphabet he's never even seen before, within 24 hours to be able to understand how a computer works in that language. Good luck with that... Now I do enjoy the movie "Independence Day" and have it on DVD. But I'm under no illusion that its "reality level" is better than comic-book. Lensman, these guys used our technology against us! T hey were ALIENS. They dont realise that on Earth there are human beings that actually try to sabotage their own systems. Maybe they learnt and replicated our own systems and never realised the Earth is full of KNOBHRDS. Ive never really had a problem with ID4. I liked it. I saw parallels with WOTW but they never pretended not to have them. Now SS the worst actor in the world...different story!!!
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Post by RustiSwordz on Nov 20, 2005 20:18:28 GMT
its cos the film IS crap.
Bad acting, bad editing, awful 'retold' story, hateful children ( i so wanted them both to die).... **** off spielberg go ruin someone elses classic story.
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tripod58
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Post by tripod58 on Nov 21, 2005 5:09:51 GMT
Why cant people just enjoy this film for what it was instead of tearing it a part because it wasn't exactly what they wanted it to be. Tottaly Agree
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Post by marciano on Nov 24, 2005 9:27:27 GMT
We have 4 VERSIONS and NO ONE make justice to the HG Wells Book
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Post by redmag on Dec 6, 2005 14:55:16 GMT
This calls for a major leaflet campaign!
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Post by marciano on Dec 6, 2005 15:04:19 GMT
Campaign, campaign!!
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Dec 6, 2005 16:35:48 GMT
Hmm. Great idea. Let's have a campaign. So, who do we aim it at? The vast majority of people that are 'ordinary moviegoers' who don't give a crap for a period Wotw OR the moviemakers who cater for the vast majority... who don't give a crap for a period Wotw. Not much point really when you look at it like that then, eh?
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