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Post by dudalb on Oct 25, 2005 23:14:34 GMT
Here's part Two of his Sy Fy portal Interview:
MODS NOTE: Article removed by request.
Unfreaking Believable. The lying and/or delusions never stop.....
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Post by RustiSwordz on Oct 26, 2005 6:14:34 GMT
hes now denying hes said half the stuff he did say when the fiasco began. The man is a fool.
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dalek
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Post by dalek on Oct 26, 2005 12:30:32 GMT
You can gloss over any misdemeanours and the facts if you work hard enough at it. However, at the end of the day thats all it is gloss. Rub it off and the mess is still there. I dont know what we were expecting TH's defence was going to be but it was never going to convince most of us! The BBC did an astonishing job with the cgi in their latest series especially with the daleks and their budget per episode was @ £600,000 for 45 minutes. Multiply that by the number of minutes for 3 hours and it comes to < £4,000,000. TH says he had more than that so where is the excuse.  dalek
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Post by Rob on Oct 26, 2005 14:12:46 GMT
Can't believe we got a mention. Thats all I have to say really. I just wish the whole thing would disappear. I'm focusing on the upcoming Wayne stuff...
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Post by Balrog on Oct 26, 2005 14:39:09 GMT
Can't believe we got a mention. Thats all I have to say really. I just wish the whole thing would disappear. I'm focusing on the upcoming Wayne stuff... Absolutely right. This has gone on far too long and this final part of the interview is just confirmation that he is one deluded fellow. Got my Wayne ticket for next year, can't wait for Munich, can't wait for Asylums King Kong thingy and especially can't wait for Chrome................Matrix style FX again?
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Post by HTT on Oct 26, 2005 14:48:17 GMT
It wasn't me! Well, at least we know Timmy visits the site! Shame he did didn't register onto the site and explain how things were going. I'm sure if he'd kept us in the picture from the start, we could have forgiven a lot more.
Well, at least he's now being honest about how it all fell apart. But surely, why not re-render & re-comp when doing the re-cut? How expensive is it to film some water at the relevant perspective? Perhaps the full quote was "...I would love to re-render and re-comp the ship entirely, but I couldn't be @rsed for the Directors Cut."
I do like the 3hr movie, but what was needed was: - The stipping down and re-editing to 1.5/2 hours - Re-rendered FX shots - Tripod models done as CGI - A complete recompositing - Reshooting the end to include more Dead London - Redubbing the audio track for accent consistency - or even use Engligh actors for the ADR. not just stripping it down.
This film could be really good, if only the time is taken to put it together properly. Id like to see the profits from Chrome pumped into creating an new verion of the movie, with the bluescreen plates re-composited better, the CGI re-rendered, and the dialog re-recorded. I excused the fiasco of the first movie, basically because it clearly ran out of time and budget, and it hid have Heart and Potential. I cannot, however, give any credence to a Directors Cut, when the Director acknowledges the original flaws, says he'd love to re-do them, and DOESN'T!
I expect news of an Special Edition at some point soon, which will probably update the Thunderchild sequence only, and PP will announce "We'd love to re-render and re-composite the London shots to look more like Victorian London". Followed by an Ultimate Edition with the caveat "We'd love to re-render and re-composite Weybridge, and Horsell Common". IF YOU'RE GONNA RELEASE IT AGAIN - RELEASE IT PROPERLY!!!
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Oct 26, 2005 18:01:09 GMT
No, it was me. Nothing excuses Timbo's crapness. And there's no point in making a shopping list of what he could have done to improve the movie because it was so fundamentally badly made that nothing could have saved it. The problem is people thinking that a bit of tweaking here or there could have done it. Cobblers. Hines HAS NO TALENT. All the shopping list approach does is say that IF Timbo did have the talent he could have made a good film. Well sorry, but I may as well say that 'if I had wings I could fly', or 'if I had two arses I could crap twice as much', but that's not an analysis, that's simply wish fulfilment. He was the wrong person to make this film, end of story.
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Oct 26, 2005 23:16:37 GMT
Oh dear, why-oh-why didn't Michael Simpson do any proper research when he interviewed Timbo...?
'Claims that Hines said the effects would match those of "Star Trek" seem to originate from a July, 2001, press release announcing that Pendragon had signed a deal with effects house Foundation Imaging. The last three Star Trek series were among that company's credits, it said. But in another release in October of that year Hines said that Foundation had written off some of their work. SyFy Portal could find no indication that Foundation was employed after 9/11, or any subsequent claims comparing the special effects to Star Trek...'
Wrong! In February of this year, Hines gave an interview to Jeffrey Welles on *Hollywood Elsewhere* (http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2005/02/strange_invader.php). The last paragraph of the interview reads:
"That said, our effects are going to look as good as if not better than what you see on Star Trek, for instance. Our film, at its best, comes off as visually assured as The Matrix."
Now, this is not an old quote that Welles has dropped in, as several paragraphs earlier he writes:
'I asked Hines two or three times about when the film would be shown to critics, and each time he gave what sounded to me like an evasive answer. He later told me he'll let me have an exclusive peek sometime in early March.
Here's some verbatim excerpts from what Hines told me. I’m just running the quotes undoctored, not having time to double-check everything before my scheduled return to Santa Barbara early this afternoon...'
It's quite clear that the interview was very recent in relation to the publication date. So Hines' comments about Star Trek are not pre-2001, they were made as recently as February this year.
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Post by HTT on Oct 27, 2005 10:01:17 GMT
[glow=purple,2,300]I'm not disputing that. Tweaking wouldn't be enough. I was saying that the original filmed footage should have been re-cut and FX re-done & re-composited from scratch, plus refilming the end.
I was irked because this could have been done for the DC, and Tim says in the interview he'd love to re-do it. But he didn't, and that's what p1ssed me off. [/glow]
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Oct 27, 2005 12:26:55 GMT
Ah, but my point is that Timbo hasn't got the talent, no matter how much time or money he's given, to produce a decent film. Nothing he's done so far suggests that he has the talent. After all, the film as it stands is appallingly edited, yet it costs no more to edit a film well than to edit it badly - you still have to go through the same techinical operations either way. But what makes the difference is the editor's ability to, well, edit. So to say that 'he could have done it for the DC' misses the point completely - no he couldn't, because he isn't capable.
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Post by Ashe Raven on Oct 30, 2005 10:20:33 GMT
Someone should write a counter article to this, proving his lies... ahem sorry I mean in what my oinion is his lies
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Post by Rob on Oct 30, 2005 20:51:16 GMT
I just don't think anyone can be bothered, this whole thing has gone on far too long. It a naff film, end of.
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Post by Ashe Raven on Oct 30, 2005 21:00:51 GMT
nuff said
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Post by Mr Death Ray on Nov 8, 2005 20:40:32 GMT
Hines, your not suppose to be accurate to the period, your suppose to be accurate to the book. Uniforms in the book were Red & blue and some white, not Khaki. Doesn't matter to much, I heard there are some other colours in the film when the book mentions it. Just the thought 
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