Gray
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Post by Gray on May 25, 2005 12:53:31 GMT
Thanks for the update, Gorn.
--And HTT.
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Post by Gnorn on May 25, 2005 12:59:44 GMT
I indeed forgot Movietyme, HTT About the new announcement, I dunno if that is indeed coming. I allready expected some new messages times ago, mainly to clarify the 'coming soon' message and the DVD release.
-Gnorn
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Post by dudalb on May 25, 2005 18:36:31 GMT
Somehow, I have a feeling that most people are just not going to put much credibility in what Pendragon or Hines have to say. I admit, that for me Tim Hines has a fascinating, Ed Wood style about him. But as to expecting a good film. Nope.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on May 25, 2005 19:35:22 GMT
My gripe's not so much with the design of the dvd cover [ which isn't that bad ] it's the fact that those tripods might be in the final film. I also liked the design of the handling machine. [well what could be seen of it anyway] but those tripods have gotta go.
Of course there is the possibility that this dvd cover is something hastily put together by Amazon. Let's hope so anyway.
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Zoe
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Post by Zoe on May 25, 2005 19:49:13 GMT
And as for other speculation that there are only "bits and pieces" and not a full film, then why would the running length be 3 hours?? That's not really what I'm suggesting though..... You're right.... it is speculation..... Look at all the speculation going on about the Spielberg film - and there's a lot more actual material to go on...... There's no harm in people speculating about the Hines film.... It's healthy and stimulating and what boards like this are all about. Anyway, let me run this past you all.... Indulge me Supposing when Hines first announced his intention to make a film version of The War of the Worlds that he said that what he was intending to do was a three hour long reading of the book accompanied by a photo montage including period photographs, illustrations from different editions of The War of the Worlds and some 'sepia toned' live action scenes, animations and even the occasional special effects sequence and so on. That kind of film has been done before - it was quite trendy at one time. Some historical films have been made along those lines and the technique was used by David Hamilton for example in his film 'Bilitis' which uses stills interwoven with live action to create what was probably the first 'soft porn art film'. Now if Hines had announced his intention to produce such a version of TWOTW wouldn't a lot of people on this board have been intrigued and interested? Well, he didn't of course. He announced a wonderful film with the latest special effects and that is what everyone on this board was anticipating. Is that what we are going to get? Well.... No.... apparently. All the evidence points to Hines running out of money, time and talent - in that order. I've seen this happen before..... The person with vision does not need to have all the talent necessary to realise that vision - in fact what happens when people try to do everything? They fall flat on their faces usually! The person with the vision needs three things; money, money and money Money can buy time and money can buy talent. When the money starts to run out the visionary artist starts to compromise and things get 'left out'. Now, all I'm suggesting is that Hines is probably trying to compromise - big time. When artists try to compromise they can leave reality behind because...... being imaginative people...... they do not realise how far their own reality has diverged from other people's expectations. They forget that they cannot be at the unveiling to explain to the highly critical public just what they have tried to achieve and what sacrifices have been made. So I think it is very very likely that Hines' film falls very very short of our expectations and is a compromise. Understandibly, he is defensive and evasive about it. I know actors and I've seen them walk out at the first hint that they are not going to get paid. I've seen elaborate sets and costumes abandoned and something far simpler adopted at the last minute. I've seen a film director with a hand held camera frantically filming something totally improvised because the reels of film back from the lab are unusable. I have seen the same director frantically writing explanatory narration for an incomprehensible film because there is not enough usable footage to make his intention clear. So, I think that somewhere between a beautiful, well made and finished film version of The War of the Worlds we were promised and the few fragments we have seen is Hines' compromise. All I am saying is that if it is a three hour montage of sepia photographs intercut with some (sepia) live action and a narration adapted from the book that could even turn out to be a classic of its kind...... I suppose it's a more elaborate way of saying "When it finally appears you might still be very pleasantly surprised". Zoe
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on May 25, 2005 21:04:21 GMT
I sincerely hope it's not some documentary style thing and I'm pretty sure even Pendragon with their strange way of doing things wouldn't foist that upon us.
I think most fans will only accept a full on feature film.
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Post by RustiSwordz on May 25, 2005 21:11:21 GMT
i have . that much hope.
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Post by VES on May 25, 2005 21:14:03 GMT
*SIGH* Just wait n' see..... *shrugs*
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Zoe
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Post by Zoe on May 25, 2005 21:55:16 GMT
I sincerely hope it's not some documentary style thing and I'm pretty sure even Pendragon with their strange way of doing things wouldn't foist that upon us. I think most fans will only accept a full on feature film. I did not say documentary. I gave a possible scenario for a compromise and reasons why. You hope Pendragon won't 'foist that on you' - you can't be sure they won't. There is evidence that they might do some kind of compromise - or maybe they will give you nothing at all. 'Most fans.....' Fans are a tiny minority of film audiences. What the fans 'will only accept' will almost certainly not be made - that's why Spielberg is successful and Hines isn't. Zoe
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Post by paco417 on May 25, 2005 22:24:40 GMT
i would still like to get access to this movie but fear that europe will not get a chance to see it legally! so i have sneaking suspicion that at some point on a P2P it will show up. we'll see.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on May 25, 2005 22:45:01 GMT
I sincerely hope it's not some documentary style thing and I'm pretty sure even Pendragon with their strange way of doing things wouldn't foist that upon us. I think most fans will only accept a full on feature film. I did not say documentary. I gave a possible scenario for a compromise and reasons why. You hope Pendragon won't 'foist that on you' - you can't be sure they won't. There is evidence that they might do some kind of compromise - or maybe they will give you nothing at all. 'Most fans.....' Fans are a tiny minority of film audiences. What the fans 'will only accept' will almost certainly not be made - that's why Spielberg is successful and Hines isn't. Zoe I didn't say that you did say documentary. I said documentary style. And yes I can't be sure they won't give us some form of a compromise. We obviously can't be sure of anything - and I never said we could. I'm just guessing like you and everyone else on here.
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Post by jeffwaynefan on May 25, 2005 22:56:39 GMT
As were talking docu here, take a look at the 1958 'Rank' film on the Titanic disaster in 1912 - A NIGHT TO REMEMBER that stars Kenneath Moore. This British film is labeled a docu style film and very good too. Apologise for throwing this into the mix
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Post by Gnorn on May 25, 2005 23:00:26 GMT
Wonder how you came up with that? Yes, A Night To Remember is a very good movie, and a very good adaption of the book with the same name.
-Gnorn
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on May 26, 2005 0:20:41 GMT
As were talking docu here, take a look at the 1958 'Rank' film on the Titanic disaster in 1912 - A NIGHT TO REMEMBER that stars Kenneath Moore. This British film is labeled a docu style film and very good too. Apologise for throwing this into the mix Yes that type of thing might well work as it was still a film in it's own right. It was also much better than Titanic, though without the up to date effects. Haven't seen that for years!
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SEAN
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Post by SEAN on May 26, 2005 8:34:18 GMT
Regarding films I that havent been watched for years, does anyone remember the "classic" Disney film, "The Last Flight Of Noah's Ark"? Or how about "Savage Islands"? I know this has no relevance to TH TWOTW, but I thought it might lighten the mood a bit if we can all reminisce about the "good Ol' days". (An Night to remember IS a classic".
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Post by HTT on May 26, 2005 9:09:53 GMT
[glow=purple,2,300]What I'd like to see is the CFFs Glitterball on DVD - anyone else remember that? The little silver sphere from outer space fed custard and crisps by two young 'uns, It wants to go home, and tries to contact it's 'people'. Filthy Potter (the theiving window cleaner) nicks it to rob the supermarket, but in the nick of time, the Glitterballs people come to rescue him and thwart the evil Potter. Wait a minute...Boy find alien, befiends it, feeds it, tries to make contact with home, gets nabbed by the 'bad' guys, and gets rescued & taken home... nah, nowt like ET at all!!! [/glow]
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Post by David Faltskog on May 26, 2005 9:22:35 GMT
Blimey Glitterball!, the chase around the supermarket was filmed at the "Woolco" superstore here in my home town of Hatfield. Useless factoid 655r3664#5 D.F.
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Post by SEAN on May 26, 2005 14:10:04 GMT
Glitterball was mega! As were really going off the topic....
BRING BACK ALL OF THE CHILDRENS FILM FOUNDATION MOVIES!!!
Friday afternoons have never been the same since!
(Does anyone remember a cartoon on itv, with 3 robots who lived in an observatory? one was red, one was yellow and one was white with tv screen faces?)
Sorry moderators for this tangent!
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Post by Slick2097 on May 26, 2005 14:32:44 GMT
Telebots!
Ste.
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Post by dudalb on May 26, 2005 19:08:52 GMT
Sorry, Zoe, but Hines promised a feature length motion picture and that is what he needs to deliver, not a freaking Microsoft Power Point presentation on a DVD... Just because somebody is a "Artist" does not excuse from basic rules of honesty, and I think that Hines has violated those repeatedly.
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