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Post by DaveJames on Apr 5, 2005 20:05:39 GMT
Nope, but that looks cool too. The cover shown in CFQ was very dark and mysterious looking, with a closeup of the tripod's torso and tentacles whipping about. I think it also said something like "Little Shop of Terror presents War of the Worlds" or something to that effect (the mag is at home right now). In any case, it looks like we're about to be INUNDATED with WOTW stuff this year. I can't wait!
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Post by Thunder Child on Apr 5, 2005 20:13:12 GMT
Well the aborted version was set in modern day America, and this picture shows (Victorian) London. So it's not a picture from the aborted movie itself. But maybe it's a picture with concept tripod designs, just to give the readers an impression about what the fim is all about.
Just a thought...
Johan
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Post by Lensman on Apr 5, 2005 20:18:02 GMT
Why would pendragon suply CFQ with an abandoned image from 2001? I'm pretty sure that's not from the 2001 production. The setting of that was the U.S northwest (Seattle's Space Needle, for example) whereas this new image clearly is set in London. I am disappointed they didn't stick to the description in the book, altho not all that surprised; the handling machine image doesn't resemble the book description either. But I'm with Rob; taken as a design by itself, I like it, and it's a much more esthetically pleasing design than most depictions of the tripods I've seen. If this really is a model/diorama as has been said, it's not surprising. I think Mr. Hines has said they are using all forms of FX including both models and CGI. They may use both for the tripods, for different scenes. Even when a machine or monster is done entirely CGI, film makers often have models made up to give the CGI artists a three-dimensional reference.
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Post by Gnorn on Apr 5, 2005 20:24:37 GMT
WHAT ... THE ... F*CK ?!!! All you people seem to do is whine and bitch about every bit of info that is coming from Pendragon and Mr. Hines! And if no new info is forthcoming you whine and bitch about that! Goddamn ...
:-(
-Gnorn
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Post by David Faltskog on Apr 5, 2005 20:35:15 GMT
Same old Same old same old... Totally agree Gorn. D.F.
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Post by Gnorn on Apr 5, 2005 20:37:57 GMT
Cheers D.F. !
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Apr 5, 2005 20:42:04 GMT
WHAT ... THE ... F*CK ?!!! All you people seem to do is whine and bitch about every bit of info that is coming from Pendragon and Mr. Hines! And if no new info is forthcoming you whine and bitch about that! Goddamn ... :-( -Gnorn I'd like to think personally that I'm fair with Pendragon. If something looks good I'll say so but if something looks or sounds crap - well, I'll say it looks or sounds crap. Again as fighting machine designs go they look a damn site better than most of the designs I've seen around, but Hines did say they would be accurate to the book. It might be some sort of concept design - but if it is the final design - well I feel a bit short changed.
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Post by Gnorn on Apr 5, 2005 20:47:49 GMT
Nowhere in the book is an actual picture of the figting machines. It's all described in text. The visualization is left to the reader, and everybody imagines the FM's in another way, hence the thousands of different designs that excist. So what the f*ck if Mr. Hines imagines the FM's in this way? If he feels that IN HIS OPINION they look like this, then that's his right.
-Gnorn
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Post by themotile on Apr 5, 2005 21:00:19 GMT
Nowhere in the book is an actual picture of the figting machines. It's all described in text. The visualization is left to the reader, and everybody imagines the FM's in another way, hence the thousands of different designs that excist. So what the f*ck if Mr. Hines imagines the FM's in this way? If he feels that IN HIS OPINION they look like this, then that's his right. -Gnorn Except that they look "really shoddy" dont they. I mean what do you want us to do Gnorn? Dance around in our under pants chanting Hines's name while clapping our hands with glee because his lordship has actualy released a mere morsal for the poor peasants? Not me mate, im no sycophant. If something is "rubbish" its "rubbish", and these god awful metal chicken things are "rubbish", its not just my opinion though is it? they are just "dire", on no level can they be justified. I for one wont praise Hines just because hes associated with WOTW until he actualy achieves something, until this point he has not. Besides, your sticking up for Hines and its not even known if he made them yet, all thats been said is that they FM's in that picture are sub-comical plastic chickens with bathroom fittings for legs and old womens bracelets for tentacles pasted onto a crap CG lego land housing estate with a dodgy big ben in the background, and its a world were percpective and scale have been thrown out of the window. I dont think anyone has slated Hines for them yet.
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Post by Lensman on Apr 5, 2005 21:01:58 GMT
WHAT ... THE ... F*CK ?!!! All you people seem to do is whine and bitch about every bit of info that is coming from Pendragon and Mr. Hines! And if no new info is forthcoming you whine and bitch about that! Goddamn ... :-( You said it, Gorn. Makes me wonder just what their motive is for all this bashing. Could it be the green-eyed monster? I know a couple of the Usual Suspects have claimed to be in the film business; maybe it's just they're jealous of Mr. Hines' success.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Apr 5, 2005 21:03:38 GMT
Nowhere in the book is an actual picture of the figting machines. It's all described in text. The visualization is left to the reader, and everybody imagines the FM's in another way, hence the thousands of different designs that excist. So what the f*ck if Mr. Hines imagines the FM's in this way? If he feels that IN HIS OPINION they look like this, then that's his right. -Gnorn True, and the head [ or hood ] is an interesting design and I'm not saying it doesn't look good but again, those tentacles do look a bit naff.
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Post by Gnorn on Apr 5, 2005 21:10:09 GMT
Except that they look f*cking sh*t dont they. I mean what do you want us to do Gnorn? Dance around in our under pants chanting Hines's name while clapping our hands with glee because his lordship has actualy released a mere morsal for the poor peasants? Not me mate, im no sycophant. If something is sh*t its sh*t, and these god awful metal chicken things are sh*t, its not just my opinion though is it? they are just sh*t, on no level can the be justified. I for one wont praise Hines just because hes associated with WOTW until he actualy achieves something, until this point he has not. Well, what I can guess what you can do, is stay clear of the Pendragon forum, just like I'm doing with the SS forum. You don't like Mr. Hines movie thus far, nobody is forcing you drop into this forum and to comment on it. And if the FM's look like f*cking sh*t to you ... well, that's in the eye of the beholder. -Gnorn
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Post by Gnorn on Apr 5, 2005 21:11:28 GMT
True, and the head [ or hood ] is an interesting design and I'm not saying it doesn't look good but again, those tentacles do look a bit naff. Agreed on the tentacle bit. But in the trailer they look much sleeker, so I'm guessing this picture is some sort of concept art or something. -Gnorn
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 5, 2005 21:42:49 GMT
I must admit.. I don't like those at all. I'm a bit baffled. And frustrated. They look nothing like the FM legs in the trailer and some of you are right, they look like plastic toys. If that is a real image from PP surely it would be on the website by now? Or maybe not. I notice that there are no Picture credits anywhere.. PP normally have copyright stuff plastered on their pics. Is it possible this is some sort of mockup or concept, as has been suggested? I'm going to try to email the mag and find out about that pic. I'll let you know if I hear anything.
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Post by Thunder Child on Apr 5, 2005 22:28:54 GMT
Thanks Evil!
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 5, 2005 22:55:06 GMT
Those pictures of the tripods are utterly appaling! Dreadful design.
And the pic of the martians towering over London is rubbish you can see the models are suspended infront of big ben as seperate models not as part of a scene.
terrible hack job.
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Apr 5, 2005 23:09:32 GMT
Having looked, no, stared, at that picture for some time, I still can't figure out what the hell is going on.
If they're CGI, they're cr*p.
If physical models, they're cr*p, especially as Timbo boasted of the '9 foot high model' they'd built. If these are that, then Jaysus, they look more like 9 inches of sh*te...
Now Gnorn, it's all very well of you to have a go at the so-called Hines Bashers, but...
The formerly caustic Motile is a model of restraint now.
I've calmed down a lot.
And various people, such as Nerfy and others, who are unapologetic Nines supporters, have also been critical of this latest material.
It's all very well to say that Hines is condemned when he doesn't release anything, and condemned when he does.
But the problem is that whenever he does release something, it's almost invariably a crushing disappointment.
These awful plastic chicken tripods; the self-exculpatory conspiracy whingeing of the interview. If he released quality material, people wouldn't have a go, it's as simple as that.
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 5, 2005 23:48:52 GMT
And various people, such as Nerfy and others, who are unapologetic Nines supporters, have also been critical of this latest material. Ermm... just to clarify.. I've been sitting on the fence (and I'm unapologetic about that.. I'm usually a wait and see type of guy) all the way through this, hoping this movie would turn out ok. I've seen too many reviews slating movies only to find them pretty good and vice versa.. I prefer to make my own mind up. I don't think I've blindly defended PP at all, at any time. If I don't like something, I'll be happy to say so..and why. I don't like those tripods. Because they aren't much cop.
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Post by Lensman on Apr 6, 2005 5:00:45 GMT
The formerly caustic Motile is a model of restraint now. Oh yeah, using the most vulgar and obscene adjective possible followed by the most vulgar and obscene noun possible-- repeated four times-- to describe the tripod models is certainly a "model of restraint". Compared to that, *you* are a model of restraint, McT.
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Apr 6, 2005 8:23:50 GMT
Sorry EvilN, you have been pretty neutral, but you also have not been a Hines knocker, but even you think those tripods are bobbins.
Lensy, I'm not having a go, but I think Motile was writing in the spirit of Gnorn's "WHAT ... THE ... F*CK ?!!!" comment; I do think you'll find that apart from the use of disguised expletives, deployed to ironic effect, his posts have been pretty moderate.
Anyhoo, apart from all that, I'm most cheesed off with Forbidding Prices - they don't have the latest CFQ in yet. Muppets.
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