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Post by ThunderchildIV on Apr 4, 2005 15:57:32 GMT
Why are all these threads being closed? I quite enjoy reading some of these people comments ;D.
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Post by Rob on Apr 4, 2005 15:59:41 GMT
You can still read them,
it's just I want to discourage people from discussing these legal and copyright matters aswell as tip offs that are unconfirmed. They are matters for lawyers and not for fans as non of us really understand them fully.
As for the tip offs, they are just rumours and so can't be taken as fact, I'm sure people don't want to discuss something that they aren't sure is true.
It is something that I would like people to no longer discuss on the forum.
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Post by Charles on Apr 5, 2005 3:09:28 GMT
I can't see why copyright is such a verboten topic around here. The H.G. Wells Society gets Wells related copyright inquiries quite often. In response we created a page outlining Wells and copyright. I thought I had posted it on this board before, but here it is again: hgwellsusa.50megs.com/UK/hgwcopy.html |
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 5, 2005 3:42:35 GMT
It's not a 'verboten' subject, Charles. If it was, the many threads on this issue would be gone.. not locked.
The only trouble is that the facts in PP's case are a little unclear to us ordinary mortals and the issue has become a little clouded.
Rob wants to keep things 'legal free' mainly because we really don't know what's happening in the PP camp, apart from the odd rumour here and there.
Also, stating (without proof) that one faction or other is doing this that or other to another party is not helpful to the site.
It's a crazy world, I'm sure I don't need to tell anyone that.
Your explanation, Charles, (which you did post some time ago, I remember it) goes some way to explain the legal position regarding HG Wells work in general, especially in text form.. and I reposted your comments from some time back re the Paramount/ Hallmark case to illustrate the movie side of the issue.
What people here really want to know is how PP stand in the light of Paramount's ownership of the movie rights. I can't see us getting a concrete answer to that just now.
With one delay or another, people will speculate and the lack of real news from PP doesn't help.
What Rob would like now, I think, is for us to wait for some real news from one party or another about this before we start off again on this tack.
That's probably a sensible way to go, all things considered.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 5, 2005 5:50:53 GMT
Everyone is too polite on these forums so i might as well come out and say it.
Rob has locked these threads because if anyone is going to be sued it will be him being the webmaster/former owner of these boards and hes only covering his own ass.
Dont blame him.
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 5, 2005 6:39:41 GMT
'Former owner', Rusti?
He still is the owner.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 5, 2005 6:41:59 GMT
'Former owner', Rusti? He still is the owner. I thought paramount bought the site off him it was all over the press last year. |
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 5, 2005 6:53:52 GMT
I thought we'd already put that rumour to bed..
Ok.. here we go again.
Rob sold Paramount a Domain Name when they started plans for the movie. That's all. Typical media got it wrong.
The Waroftheworldsonline site and boards are in no way owned or affiliated to Paramount Pictures...
Or Pendragon Pictures or Jeff Wayne or anybody else to do with War of the Worlds in it's many forms.
This site is, and always has been, owned by Rob and run by him and the Moderating team for no recompense whatsoever.
But you're right in one respect. This site, like any other these days, has to be fairly careful about the legalities of the whole thing. But that's just common sense.
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Post by themotile on Apr 5, 2005 9:21:37 GMT
Although I agree to a degree I must say it is a bit over the top, the site is already full of diclaimers and warnings, an internet forum is a place where people will discuss such things as copyright law on the film they are a fan of if it will dictate whether or not they see the film in the first place.
Remember its Hines himself who is propagating the rumours about conspiracies and copyright disputes in the first place.
At the end of the day its Robs site, he can do what he wants, I just think in my 'personal opinion' this site is very paranoid compared to every other forum on the web, its gone so far left its meeting the right, if you take my meaning, espesialy when people start to leave because of it.
"just my two cents"
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Apr 5, 2005 9:32:36 GMT
Well if people want to leave because of old rules or new rules, thats there discision. But all boards have a differant set of rules. Having over 700 members proves just how popular this site has become and that people except these rules. All because a few don't agree with them - well tough. I dont think many members realise how hard at times it can be for the webmaster and moderators to police, maintain and supervise a site of over 700 members making sure people are comforatable and enjoy there time here.
H_C
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Post by themotile on Apr 5, 2005 10:11:42 GMT
I think the word 'police' is a bit strong, its not a regime in here is it? its not the rules that people disagree with them its the perception of what contributes as a breach of these rules and in some cases it has nothing to do with the rules at all, like flynsixtysix picture, it was very funny but he was told to take it down, that's the kind of over the top PC nonsense that will be the end of a forum, remember that this forum will die a death after the films have been and gone if the members arnt allowed to go off topic once in a while remember how barron the PP section went when there was nothing to talk about), theres the rules we all obide by and theres the actions of people using the rules to explain erratic behavior the defies common sense, like flynns picture. Im not complaining though its just my opinion.
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Post by Rob on Apr 5, 2005 10:34:00 GMT
Basically. I want this place to still be the place I set it up to be, a place a free discussion about war of the worlds. However, because this place is obviously my responsibility I have to think about the fact that some discussions could cross into legal territory. Whether thats paranoia or not I don't know but it's the way I want to do things. I'm not trying to stop discussion, I just have to run this place in a way that I feel comfortable with or it becomes a chore and a worry, at a time in my life where I have too many other worries.
I'm not saying don't talk about it at all as it's obviously an important aspect when we are talking factually (i.e when someone can reference their point and it isn't just speculation). But when discussion is based on rumour and can't be sourced that's dangerous ground.
I hope everyone respects that. Anyway, lets move on now...
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