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Post by Ashe Raven on Feb 15, 2005 16:06:14 GMT
I think some of your guys are taking this film a bit too personaly! No offnse matey, but as you say, you are new and you have no idea which side took the film more personally. I can tell you, it wasn't the supporters. Still at least we got an apology for that. I just want this to end, right now. And yeah, I dfon't care if you call it censorship, I think the fact tthis has been alllowed to go on in over 20 threads and unrelated threads shows how much leeway has been given already.
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Feb 15, 2005 16:32:09 GMT
I'd just like you all to know that I am watching. We really need to keep the tempers checked, people. We all have concerns and opinions about this movie but ragging at others because they don't agree with your point of view is unnecessary. I don't want to see any more inflammatory or potentially insulting posts. Keep it calm.
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Post by themotile on Feb 15, 2005 18:20:36 GMT
No offnse matey, but as you say, you are new and you have no idea which side took the film more personally. I can tell you, it wasn't the supporters. And yeah, I dfon't care if you call it censorship, I think the fact tthis has been alllowed to go on in over 20 threads and unrelated threads shows how much leeway has been given already. LOL Ashe, you cheer me up! ;D
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Post by theheatray on Feb 15, 2005 19:14:09 GMT
Sorry Asheraven, please dont think I was being rude, I offer my sincere apologies for anything I said that you didnt like.
You guys seem like such a fickle bunch I will have to be careful in here not to hurt anyones feelings.
I am firmly in the "for" camp but I have no intension of ragging anyone in the "against" camp because I dont actualy think anyone is against this film but rather how this film is looking at the moment, im sure the next trailer will bring the two camps back together as one big happy internet forum family, one way or another.
asheraven, hope we are still friends!!
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Post by Ashe Raven on Feb 16, 2005 0:36:36 GMT
I'm friends with anyone willing to be respectful and friends with me. Like you ^^ I appriciate you're new and all, so yeah I was sharp, but my patience has run abosoluty thin. So no hard feelings I hope ^^. And Motile, I'm not out to make you happy, so why would I care? In away it's a bonus I suppose, your happines is all I need to crave for it seems *Geez, and we're told to grow up*
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Post by malfunkshun on Feb 16, 2005 1:41:01 GMT
i guess i'm the only one who sees all this as just debate, not necessarily arguing and bickering... maybe its because i enjoy debating. but i definitely don't mean anything personal by it. ashe and horsell keep pointing out that this is getting out of hand, well i really don't see how... its just people slinging their opinions back and forth, i personally enjoy it. maybe i just missed the personal slurs, if they were any. after all, its been a long thread. anyway, i can see how somebody could read that article and then draw an indirect conclusion about the reason for switching it to a period piece, but any evidence is purely circumstantial and infered. still, scott peterson was convicted on circumstantial evidence... edit: ahhh, ok i just went back and re-read the beginning of the thread. seems things did get out of hand. some people it seems take jokes a little too personally on these boards, i for one will refrain from doing any more joking, at least around the people who it might upset. i was KIDDING anthony, everybody knows there is more than one city in britain ;D
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Post by theheatray on Feb 16, 2005 2:54:46 GMT
I agree with you malfuntion, it is only debate, it isnt an altar from witch to preach guidlines on behavior and what we can or cannot post, those rules were written by the one guy who can make those rules and thats Rob and we all agree to obide by them every time we come here.
Some guys here have a personal problem with other guys in here and it showes in their posts, I can honestly say that in real life I have no enemys, I dislike nobody (Bush & Blair aside) so I cant see why some guys have to be like that but BEHOLD I AM PREACHING! So I will stop, but one last note, you all seem like intelligent guys (and girls...?) with good humour (that caption thread is cool) and some valid points and you all cant half debate so I have faith in you guys!
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Post by Ashe Raven on Feb 16, 2005 12:34:05 GMT
If people push limits and deliberatly go out of their way to insult other peoples support, then yes, I rtake it personally.
Jokes are one thing, rubbing the salt is another.
Yes I support this film
yes my faith is kinda lacking right now
No thatwon't change my stance, no matter how many times they turn around and say the same thing over and over and over again.
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Post by theheatray on Feb 16, 2005 13:46:50 GMT
Hi Asheraven, and good morning!
I think you have made your point Asheraven, you seem to be saying it over and over and over so.......
Back to war of the worlds! HURRAY! ;D
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Post by Lensman on Feb 21, 2005 13:17:22 GMT
It’s clear that Motile doesn’t like Tim Hines or his project, but I’d say he has now demonstrated a serious lack of credibility as well … I've thought that for some time now. Mottie keeps twisting the facts to fit his hypotheses, which certainly don't rise to the level of "theories."
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Feb 21, 2005 15:20:56 GMT
I don't think using this forum to discuss other members is helpful or fair. Whatever our views on this project, we all need to discuss this in a reasonable fashion. Taking snipes at each other is not debate.
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Post by nervouspete on Feb 21, 2005 17:49:32 GMT
Right! That's it!
For now, until things change, I'm out of the following sections:
General Discussion Paramount Film Pendragon Pictures
I shall still be found here: Fan Stuff Off Topic The Novel
I'm just getting a little tired of the whole pattern now:
Pendragon defenders knock Paramount. Paramount defenders knock Pendragon. Both defenders get frustrated at lack of people echoing/objecting to knocking and knock each other. Me and theHeatRay (he has faith in Pendragon, I have faith in Paramount) and a few others both shake our heads sadly and wander off...
Although I feel greatly suspicious of Pendragon, I'm not one to knock a company until they come up with the finished product. Same for Spielberg. And I don't care about where people stand or their beliefs, as long as we have interesting things to say to each other. This constantly repeating record is far from interesting.
And on an unrelated note: Why-o-why did no one read Blossom Burning in the fan section? *Sniff*
(Cripes! I've just revealed the true source of my frustration! That's torn it! Oh, no! Ma wafe's gonna kill me!)
Cheers for those with level heads. Bah to those who keep taking things personally, escalating things and acting like the debate is some sort of big war of the ideologies.
Seriously, now. I'm bored of this. And think on the people who aren't members of this site, but who are thinking of joining. How is this going to look to them? They're going to feel that it's an insular, bickering place that's too mired in an endless slanging match (not just personal, but project wise too) to get involved in. People who like Wells but who don't hold it as a first love. People who enjoy the story, or look forward to finding out. If this is the message we're sending them, then I don't blame them if they stay away.
Blessings to Evilnerfherder and Rob and other moderators. I feel for you guys.
I'm off to the Gormenghast forum for a while.
Pete
P.S: Cheers again, Flynn, for the trailer.
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Post by Lensman on Feb 22, 2005 9:54:22 GMT
I don't think using this forum to discuss other members is helpful or fair. Whatever our views on this project, we all need to discuss this in a reasonable fashion. Taking snipes at each other is not debate. You're right. My apologies. I posted that while reading some of the more inflammatory posts on this thread, before reading your cautionary post which calmed things down. When I got to the end and read my own post in context, I was embarrassed.
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Feb 22, 2005 15:55:12 GMT
Members tempers are boling over, were getting tired of it and the mods are endlesly telling people about it - when will it sink in - enoughs enough. Lets just take a step back, one deep breath and relax. . . . Whats the point of arguing, causing problems, making statements that offend - at the end of the day they just build up and you will get kicked off the site, so you have just wasted your time really but offended others in the process and is that what you really wanted to do?
Any negative, hurtful, harmful statements posted are at your own cost as YOU now what you have wriiten and you also now what is going to happen when you click the 'post' button.
We never had this problem to this degree a couple of months ago.
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Post by VES on Feb 22, 2005 16:19:07 GMT
I have to agree with nervouspete's stance on this; it's wearing thin.
I personally want to see both films, what ever they may be like in their final presentation. The "debate" has devolved into a mess. I'll stick to off topic for some time, or until there is more information on either film to actually discuss that won't turn into a sniping mess.
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Feb 22, 2005 17:42:58 GMT
For those worried, I posted this warning in the Paramount section and I'm going to post it here too....
I'm tired of seeing people frightened to come on these topics for fear of being flamed or ridiculed. I'm tired of the voices of reason being ignored. This is a forum for debate not a pie fight. From now on I want anyone with a problem to come to me and I will deal with it. There are elements here who need to chill out a bit and stop using these forums as an excuse to air personal grievences and petty prejudices. I would remind everyone of the board rules and warn that anyone not following them from now on will be hearing from me. Repeat offenders are taking a big risk if they want to stay as members here. Don't say you haven't all been warned. Oh.. and as an aside.. anyone who thinks they can wait until I'm offline to post their rants might be interested to know that 1) I do read ALL the posts.. and 2) I can come online invisibly and will be doing so from time to time. Let's start from scratch shall we?
This is one subject not up to debate. Anyone ignoring these warnings is taking the risk off their own back.
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Post by Gnorn on Feb 23, 2005 2:44:26 GMT
Picks up pie and throws at... Oops, there's Nerfy! *shifty eyes*
Cheers Nerfy! You're doing a great job, trying to keep the place together. Must be demanding these days? Anyway, we apreciate you taking all the effort. Thanks.
-Gnorn
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Feb 23, 2005 2:47:56 GMT
You're welcome, Gnorn.
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Post by Ashe Raven on Feb 23, 2005 10:08:04 GMT
You know
I just noticed how much my posting here has dropped, and Nerf's put the handle on as to why. I might start picking up again
Cheers Nerf ^^
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