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Post by quaderni on Feb 13, 2005 23:01:09 GMT
I live in Woking, now all you Americans on this forum do know where that is yes.... LOL ;D Um, Scotland, right? No wait.. Wales! Wait, wait, wait - France!... It's France, isn't it? ;D LOL too.
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Post by quaderni on Feb 13, 2005 23:49:16 GMT
either there or the bum f**ked countryside, right? are there any other cities in britain? you guys and the japs should invade australia, you'd have a lot more land and a couple of more cities too That sounds a lot like Roger Water's 'Not Now John' from Pink Floyd's _The Final Cut_ - or have I just dated myself with that reference?
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Post by Gerkinman on Feb 14, 2005 0:09:28 GMT
ha ha, i live in Australia, if you guys invade you can have the deserts coz nobody lives there. But try to mess with us Australians and we will cain yo ass, we are braught up wresting crocs so no yankee or pommy bastards are ever gonna take us over...unless you liek nuke us or something. if worst comes to worst we will get Steve Irwin to bust yall up
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Post by Anthony on Feb 14, 2005 0:29:41 GMT
either there or the bum f**ked countryside, right? are there any other cities in britain? you guys and the japs should invade australia, you'd have a lot more land and a couple of more cities too Malf are you f***kin pig ignorant. Only about 10% of people in Britain live in the country. What you just said is like me saying all you yanks are a bunch of Hillbilly Irish.
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Post by Anthony on Feb 14, 2005 0:39:34 GMT
Yeah and i will give you a geography lesson Malfy, heres some Uk cities other than London.
Birmingham Manchester Liverpool Edinbough Glasgow York Cardiff Newcastle Oxford
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Post by RustiSwordz on Feb 14, 2005 0:40:43 GMT
London, manchester, Birmingham, liverpool, bristol, cardiff, and so on and on.
A lot more to the UK than just London.
And yes the yanks are to quote Tommy Lee Jones in US Marshalls. Whos the ugliest, inbred, sonofabitch hick here....
;D ;D
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Post by Anthony on Feb 14, 2005 0:42:47 GMT
LMFAO ;D
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Post by Cylinder on Feb 14, 2005 0:42:49 GMT
What a fine example of the American Educational System young Malfy is ;D
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Post by Gerkinman on Feb 14, 2005 0:44:45 GMT
Americans are alot liek the martians, they ***ked up there own country so now there invading other ones...just liek the martians did when they came to earth, but if the story holds true America wont get the last laugh >=(
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Post by malfunkshun on Feb 14, 2005 1:18:47 GMT
and you brits set such a good example right?
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Post by Gerkinman on Feb 14, 2005 2:06:24 GMT
Actually, im an Australian ;D
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Post by malfunkshun on Feb 14, 2005 2:16:32 GMT
Actually, im an Australian ;D same difference
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Post by quaderni on Feb 14, 2005 2:20:57 GMT
same difference I see we're all part of the 'coalition of the willing' here.... BTW, Mal, I just assumed you were being ironic...
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Post by Topaz on Feb 14, 2005 3:07:34 GMT
Americans are alot liek the martians, they f**ked up there own country so now there invading other ones...just liek the martians did when they came to earth, but if the story holds true America wont get the last laugh >=( Good point, Mal. I always need to remind myself that people like Spielberg have made a whole career of blowing up major metropole centers - Paris, New York, Los Angeles, whole planets - and making tons of money at it from American audiences who seem to enjoy the sadism of it all. Then al-Qaeda does the real thing. So now Spielberg goes and blow up other areas of the country 'out of respect for the victims'. What tripe. Hines's blowing up Big Ben smacks of the same thing, but I suspect he's doing Big Ben because your average American wouldn't know St. Pauls anyway. Hell, the average American probably couldn't identify Britain on a map, too, but they probably saw Big Ben on a picture in a travel office somewhere. But I digress. Yes, you do. Quaderni, I hold a great respect for most of your opinions on this board, but the hyperbole on this subject from others and now from you is getting beyond tiresome. Gerkinman, I don't even have any kind of civil word for that post. Really. Just beyond belief in my book. Since it appears that none of the moderators are available at the moment, I'll ask all of you on behalf of my fellow Americans on this board: Can we PLEASE keep the America-bashing down to a dull roar? I came here to talk about TWOTW, not to listen to a multitude of ill-considered shots at my people and my country. I know it's a popular game these days, but really, most of us in the U.S. are pretty decent, reasonably intelligent people. While I'll agree that we have our share of idiots, I'm also quite certain that we don't have a corner on that market and that the rest of the world has their portion as well. As for 9/11 and the movie industry, I honestly believe neither Spielberg nor Hines are or were 'taking advantage' of 9/11 deliberately in order to further their projects. They wouldn't take the chance. The subject is handled with extreme care over here, because any perception of 'capitalizing' on it is pretty much death to that project in the eyes of the American public. We're very sensitive about it. Please appreciate that.
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Post by Topaz on Feb 14, 2005 3:10:17 GMT
I live in Woking, now all you Americans on this forum do know where that is yes.... LOL ;D As a matter of fact, yes I do. I've been there. Next insulting question?
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Post by themotile on Feb 14, 2005 10:24:20 GMT
The U.S. is cool man, I have family in Boston and Columbus, Ohio. Jeans and trainers are cheaper there too. and besides Americans and Australians both originated from the UK anyway so we are all family, sort of. I dont doubt 9/11 delayed the PP project, it was a big and terrable event but the only reason they actualy changed projects was because Paramount had the rights and they wanted to make it, Hines says so himself! Just read the howstuffworks interview and he actualy says paramount told him he could only make the faithful version. But they used 9/11 to cover the fact they just had an ass whooping from Paramount, maybe paramount even had a gaging order so PP had to tell lies but 9/11 was not the reason they totaly abandoned the original project.
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Post by malfunkshun on Feb 14, 2005 14:19:30 GMT
could you please post snippets from that article, or point us to it? i for one have never heard or read hines say 'we decided to do a period piece because spielberg had the rights to the modernized version'.
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Post by themotile on Feb 14, 2005 15:38:32 GMT
could you please post snippets from that article, or point us to it? i for one have never heard or read hines say 'we decided to do a period piece because spielberg had the rights to the modernized version'. A quote from howstuffworks, the Tim Hines interview. "When I originally set up my production on 'The War of the Worlds', we approached everyone in Hollywood for the distribution side. Eventually we were funneled into Dreamworks/Paramount. We met with the heads of Paramount and friends of friends of Tom Cruise, various producers and associates. And little by little we learned that he [Cruise] had designs to do 'The War of the Worlds.' And we really weren't quite given clear indication as to why it was stalled out for him, what was his problem that he hadn't previously made it. But we weren't given such clear indications that it was definitely a go project for him. And indeed from the time where we first heard that to the point where they eventually fast tracked it, he did 10 or 15 projects in between." What's the legal copyright status of the right to make movies from the book? "It's one of the most complicated copyright issue problems out there. I can only say it like this. Parts of it are in the public domain, parts of it have really strange rights optioned in very strange ways to people for various different concerns. It's available in some territories and not available in other territories for some people and that possibly is why Tom Cruise was so stalled out. It was just a daunting experience. When we set out to make it we spent easily right at the very beginning $12,000 in just copyright research alone. Just to find out what all of the different various aspects of the copyright concerns were. So what I can say to you is that it boiled down to essentially a head to head between us and Paramount and ultimately they wrote us a letter conceding that we had a right to do a version of 'The War of the Worlds." The excuse: "On September 11, 2001, Hines was in the middle of pre-production on "The War of the Worlds." He wanted to create a scene in the movie where the aliens destroy the Space Needle, and had just negotiated permission from the monument's owners to do so. As the September 11th tragedy unfolded, Hines began to feel like it was the wrong time to shoot a movie about cities being destroyed. " Tripe. The production was not due for release for another THREE years, how in this world does a film now affect what happened three years ago? Does anyone take offence? In Spielbergs movie he has a plane crash into a house, is anyone shouting 9/11!!! No they are not.
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Post by themotile on Feb 14, 2005 16:54:01 GMT
Farenheit 9/11 was shocking dude.
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Post by Topaz on Feb 14, 2005 16:59:54 GMT
Tripe. The production was not due for release for another THREE years, how in this world does a film now affect what happened three years ago? Does anyone take offence? In Spielbergs movie he has a plane crash into a house, is anyone shouting 9/11!!! No they are not. Well, about the airliner in the house, no, although anything involving the downing of an airliner is going to be a bit of a gamble over here. People in the U.S. are still very sensitive on the issue. Any time you see the WTC buildings come up on a TV screen in some old movie or series, people still point and talk about it. Crashing an airliner into an office building would probably get a lot of people upset, even now. Perhaps you don't realize what that event really meant to us. I don't know how it was portrayed in your media. We're still very sensitive about it. People still care. It's going to be a very, very long time before it won't be a consideration in the visual imagery of a movie or TV show. As for the rights issue on TWOTW, I just don't know. I can see what you do in that quote from Hines, but then again I can also see it the other way - he'd already decided to do a period piece and got it confirmed with Paramount that doing so wouldn't infringe on the rights they'd already staked out. That sentence can read either way.
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