.357?

[Baron of SG-12]

I didn't know that there where S/W .357 mag in the 1800. Fire the prop guy!

[syrtismajor]

The revolver is a very old weapon! It would easily have been around in 1898 (or whenever the actual book is set around the turn of the century). Remember that the Colt M1911 automatic pistol first appeared in 1908. I had an argument with my friend as one appeared in James Cameron's 'Titanic' and he swore that it was too 'modern' to exist in 1912.
With a bit of research I found that S/W first produced their revolver in 1857! And colt were making theirs as early as 1835 (When a patent was taken out on a five shot revolver). The famous .45 Colt Peacemaker was on the market from 1873.
www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWsmithrevolvers.htm
www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWcoltR.htm
Whether or not it is a .357 in the pic is hard to tell. It could be a .44 or even a .22 (even though the size goes against it!). No prop guy needs to be fired! I'm more worried about the lack of finger on the trigger!

[maniacs]

What kind of gun appears in the westerns?

Anyway wotw was 1900!!!

[spelky]

During the Zulu wars of 1879 and the Boer War of 1900 all British officers and sergeants used 5 and 6 shot revolvers, very common if not very effective except at close range

[Baron of SG-12]

syrtismajor said:

The revolver is a very old weapon! It would easily have been around in 1898 (or whenever the actual book is set around the turn of the century). Remember that the Colt M1911 automatic pistol first appeared in 1908. I had an argument with my friend as one appeared in James Cameron's 'Titanic' and he swore that it was too 'modern' to exist in 1912.
With a bit of research I found that S/W first produced their revolver in 1857! And colt were making theirs as early as 1835 (When a patent was taken out on a five shot revolver). The famous .45 Colt Peacemaker was on the market from 1873.
www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWsmithrevolvers.htm
www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWcoltR.htm
Whether or not it is a .357 in the pic is hard to tell. It could be a .44 or even a .22 (even though the size goes against it!). No prop guy needs to be fired! I'm more worried about the lack of finger on the trigger!

I get what your saying there syrtismajor, But the S&W that she has is a heavy-frame Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum with 6-inch barrel Frist seen in 1979. The S&W of that time 1898-1900 where still cap and ball with just a few that used shells and those still look like cap and ball revolvers. To bad that Pindragons web page is down again so we could look at the pic.

Baron

[Gnorn]

I guess this is the picture you'r discussing? It's also on this site.

-Gnorn

[syrtismajor]

_{'But the S&W that she has is a heavy-frame Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum with 6-inch barrel Frist seen in 1979'}


That doesn't look like a six inch barrel, and cartridge revolvers definately existed back then. There are also many different types of revolver, I find it hard to say for definate what kind of revolver it is from such a small picture. It looks like a small calibre five shooter with a four inch barrel. Possibly even a .22 now the picture is back up! Impossible to tell for sure if it is even a S/W.

[Gnorn]

[syrtismajor]

Here we go!!

The .38 (or) the .32 Double-Action S/W revolver from 1880. May not be the exact one but very close.
Taken from this website,
www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/smith_12_0507/
That weapon looks almost identical, is a swing forward and is a cartridge revolver.
As I said to start with, no prop guy need to be fired!

[Baron of SG-12]

syrtismajor, your right, Thanks for setting it right. My Bad. It sure look like a .357 to me from the frist pic. I still say that the prop guy needs to be fired. I need a job. ;D

Baron

[syrtismajor]

No worries. As said, I had a rather heated argument with a friend once about a m1911 pistol being in Titanic. Most people don't seem to realise that the design of the gun has hardly changed since thier invention. Even the modern Beretta is a small calibre and more lightweight version of the 1911! I can see what you mean though about it looking like a s/w .357. What convinced me was that most modern revolvers 'swing out' to be reloaded, whilst the one in the pic 'breaks forward' to be reloaded. That is very rare in large calibre revolvers these days.

Oh yeah, don't ask why I know so much about guns. I don't actually know that much and I don't know how I know what I do!