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Post by Bayne on Mar 12, 2004 21:00:57 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]So, lets get technical on handling machines.....
Does anyone think any depiction is accurate?[/glow]
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Post by Earthrise on Mar 13, 2004 0:42:47 GMT
I've always liked Jeff Wayne's; permanently imprinted on my eight year old mind. That is from an artistic point of view. As far as accuracy to the text, well that's a different matter. Remember the HM is not for combat, working and "cleaning" up after the front has past and in the cylinder pits. From the book, and what I believe Well's intended, it is some kind of mechanical skeleton, like Ripley's power loader from Aliens.
It would move with the fluidity of a living creature. Very strong and adaptable, even a kind of militia fighting ability. It should be multi-purpose; different "clip-on" adaptations for different missions. I am playing with a "Harvester" version in the conclusion to my FanFic "Behind the Wire".
I think the HM could be their standard body for locomotion outdoors. I image some kind of suspensor disk they could float on indoors, no evidence of that tech at all from Wells. Or suspensor belts (like the Baron from Dune) to aid them to walk on their main locomotion tentacles. Again, flights of fancy. Maybe they don't need them with Martian gravity, maybe technology has made them lazy. Reliance on machines suggests this.
Earthrise
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Post by Killraven on Mar 15, 2004 12:15:34 GMT
I like the Jeff Wayne version too (they spent a lot of time designing the machines for the album - anyone who has the remastered double CD accompanied by the revised booklet with the additional sketches will know this). The other thing about it though, apart from it looking a bit cumbersome, is that both in reference to the album passage pre- 'Spirit of Man' ...(speaking only from memory!) it was like a metallic spider...we saw it pursue some people across a field....put them in a great metal basket on it's back" - and from the accompanying artwork - only the handling machines had baskets with which to catch humans. Which is patently incorrect when you refer back to the book.  |
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Post by Bayne on Mar 16, 2004 22:40:33 GMT
[glow=red,2,300] The WHAT! ? ! ? ! ? ! ? !  REVISED BOOKLET WITH ADDITIONAL SKETCHES? ? ? ? ? ? ! ! ! ! ! ! Why didn't someone tell me about this before?  [/glow] |
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Post by Killraven on Mar 17, 2004 9:24:41 GMT
OH YES! More like to scale technical drawings really - show's 'pencil' renditions of the Handling Machine....I think they're only included in the CD remaster from 1996 on (the one with the 4 remixes). Also has revised biogs with new pics of the 'players' and a bit more history (ie what they did up to the early 90's).  If you don't have it already, GET IT!  JJ |
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Post by Thunder Child on Mar 17, 2004 21:35:15 GMT
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Post by Killraven on Mar 18, 2004 13:18:57 GMT
Yes, that's one of the extra drawings in the remastered CD.
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Post by Colonel on Apr 2, 2004 11:57:32 GMT
There is one thing about Jeff Wayne's Handling machine that really bugs me: Didn't it have five legs in the book?
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Post by Killraven on Apr 2, 2004 12:06:02 GMT
There is one thing about Jeff Wayne's Handling machine that really bugs me: Didn't it have five legs in the book? Need to check - the JW machine has 7 I think.. |
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Post by Thunder Child on Apr 2, 2004 16:06:39 GMT
Hi Colonel,
Yep, the Wells Handling Machines had five legs.
The JW Handling Machine had 6. You can see this clearly on the Geoff Tayler painting of Dead London.
Greetings,
Johan
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Post by Bayne on Apr 16, 2004 2:28:42 GMT
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 16, 2004 12:54:10 GMT
Looks pretty much how I imagined it (that is,when I can get the JW version out of my head).
Tell me though,Where in the book was the handling machine menacing a Vampire Teddy Bear? ;D
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Post by Thunder Child on Apr 17, 2004 22:03:17 GMT
Hi Bayne,
That picture is very good!
It looks like a crab, as described in the book. But what about the many levers and tentacles Wells is talking about? I think it is very difficult to draw an accurate Handling Machine. I've tried more than once...
Your website is fantastic my friend! You're a king!
Greetings,
Johan
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Post by Bayne on Apr 18, 2004 3:04:22 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]The circles are the retracted tentacles, the levers are all folded up except for one arm.
Thanks for the praise ;D [/glow]
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Post by Demon Angel on Apr 19, 2004 2:47:32 GMT
Let's be honest here people... What good handeling machine shouldn't come complete with a Gothic Vampiric Teddy Bear under it's * Arm * 
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 19, 2004 20:35:52 GMT
Good point.Never thought of that.
''So,Overlord.Packed your vampire teddy bear?''
''Of course,I'm powerless without it.Besides which,what else would I snuggle up to at night?A biped?''
Much hooting ensues.
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Post by Bayne on May 11, 2004 1:45:10 GMT
[glow=red,2,300] The vampire teddy was just one of many other things on the page of my sketch book at the time  You can just see it in Sill's arms in the PS1 webcomic. Back to the Handling Machine... Is Wells saying the machine has 5 legs, or legs with 5 joints? [/glow] |
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Post by Colonel on May 11, 2004 16:13:34 GMT
Iv'e always thought they had five legs.
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Post by Leatherhead on Mar 17, 2005 20:35:43 GMT
i understand the locomtion of a tripod, but how exactly does a pentapod move?
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Post by McTodd on Mar 17, 2005 21:23:46 GMT
Bayne, I like it, especially the open 'cab' at the front, pretty much how I've always thought of it (maybe with a canopy, though - even a Martian wouldn't be too happy if he dropped something and it landed on him!). I've tended to think of the HMs as like an ultra-sophisticated alien version of a JCB, though without a Martian arse hanging over a pair of low-slung jeans (Martian builders? Shudder... "Want that planet conquered by Tuesday? Ooooooohhh, dunno about that mate, it'll cost ya extra.") Here's a wonderful model: www.martinbowersmodelworld.com/handling%20machine.htmAlthough, lacking the flying vampire teddy, it's clearly not that good. |
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You can just see it in Sill's arms in the PS1 webcomic.