"Nothing can touch them....."

[themotile]

Nothing can touch them.


What does that mean? Does it mean they can deflect missiles or shells? If so how? Shields? Armour?

Does it mean they are just too darn fast? Is the heat ray just too good a weapon?

Or is it something else entirely?

[RustiSwordz]

well if you remember the novel or more accuatly the musical

: No one and nothing was left now to fight them....

maybe its something like that. hes resigning himself to the fact they are overwhelming in their attacks.

[themotile]

Very possible Rusti, a kind of philosophical "nothing can touch them".

[EvilNerfherder]

I think it's a general 'they are badass and we can't do a thing against them'.
I find that encouraging.

[Topaz]

"Stones and arrows against the lightning." ;D

[dudalb]

"If so how? Shields? Armour?'
I am betting the Tripods will have some kind of shield a la The 1953 version.
Fact is, that, even in 1953, World War Two Era Weapons would have made mincemeat of a unprotected fighting machine, considering how badly outnumbered they were. That is why Pal included had the Energy Shields.
That is even more so with the Smart Weapons of today.
If you are going to have few Tripods essential kick the butt of the US Military, you have to have an equilizer
Even Black Smoke will not do it in 2005, you could fire a cruise missile from miles off and take out the tripod. People know this.
The Tripods will have to be almost invulnerable to weapons to make the plotline of a few Fighting Machines destroying the US military beleivable.
That leaves you with some kind of energy shild or super armor, and I think that the shields are a better way to go.
It's a concept people are used to from the 53 version and ID4, and it's the easiset and quickest way out of the dilemna.

[malfunkshun]

the said:

Nothing can touch them.


What does that mean? Does it mean they can deflect missiles or shells? If so how? Shields? Armour?

Does it mean they are just too darn fast? Is the heat ray just too good a weapon?

Or is it something else entirely?

is that a new tagline? something from a press release?

[Winky]

quote from Tom Cru- Ray Ferrier in the new Japanese teaser

not an offical new tag-line one could say, just a cool quote

[Gnorn]

Let's hope it will not be another tagline...

It would be like They are allready here ...

Really, can't Hollywood think of anything better but these kind of cliche taglines?

-Gnorn

[maniacs]

Hes digging his garden for a swimming pool. He comes across a pod buried for thousands of years. On it it says

' Nothing can touch me!'

cruise reads it aloud for us because

a: its written in Americanised English

b: its written in Latin, and cruise's character, a mechanic knows Latin.

c: its written in Martianese and because Cruise once studied Martianese during his time as a captured, experimental sex object in their other dimensional spaceship!!!

Spooky hey! or diabolical bolicals.

[themotile]

dudalb said:

"If so how? Shields? Armour?'
I am betting the Tripods will have some kind of shield a la The 1953 version.
Fact is, that, even in 1953, World War Two Era Weapons would have made mincemeat of a unprotected fighting machine, considering how badly outnumbered they were. That is why Pal included had the Energy Shields.
That is even more so with the Smart Weapons of today.
If you are going to have few Tripods essential kick the butt of the US Military, you have to have an equilizer
Even Black Smoke will not do it in 2005, you could fire a cruise missile from miles off and take out the tripod. People know this.
The Tripods will have to be almost invulnerable to weapons to make the plotline of a few Fighting Machines destroying the US military beleivable.
That leaves you with some kind of energy shild or super armor, and I think that the shields are a better way to go.
It's a concept people are used to from the 53 version and ID4, and it's the easiset and quickest way out of the dilemna.

I have heard enough to make me think its not shields, im of the opinion like Rusti that its more a resigned philosophical comment but if it turns out to actualy mean nothing can touch them then they would need some plot devise like shields or a combination of speed, armour and heatray.

[dudalb]

"but if it turns out to actualy mean nothing can touch them then they would need some plot devise like shields or a combination of speed, armour and heatray. "
Which for the reasons I have given above they are going to need such a plot device. You are talking about a few fricking tripods wiping out the US Military.I don' think that Heat Rays or Black Smoke alone is going to make that convincing because of modern Long Range weapons.
I am not a betting man, but I am betting there will be such a plot device. and shields seem to me to be the quickest and easiest way to go. People are famlaire with it from a lot of other Sci Fi movies.
If they felt it necessary in the 1953 version to give the Martians a edge like that. it's necessary in the 2005 version.
It' s not an issue I am passionate about, but it does seem to me just unavoidable to make the Martians almost invicible to modern weapons, since there are so few of them.

[RustiSwordz]

people are forgetting the one thing that is pretty much confirmed.

The EMP device.

Tripod detects tank. tripod activates EMP. tanks are disabled.
Tripod trashes tank.

[Winky]

RustiSwordz said:

people are forgetting the one thing that is pretty much confirmed.

The EMP device.

Tripod detects tank. tripod activates EMP. tanks are disabled.
Tripod trashes tank.

wow good point. it all makes sense now too without giving the marti-aliens a full 100% protection as there could be a tank they wouldn't always detect...then they could be trashed

[Tripod]

Yes it's a cool quote.
But about the tagline maybe they could better change ''They're already here...'' into ''The Last War on Earth won't be started by Humans...''

Tripod

[Winky]

Tripod said:

But about the tagline maybe they could better change ''They're already here...'' into ''The Last War on Earth won't be started by Humans...''

Tripod

That would be 100 times better. It's been the offical one with me since the superbowl teaser lol

[TOMAHAWK]

emp will not work against older tanks ,


M60/M48's are pretty old, and they don't have the systems in them that will be effeted by emp, look at the T55 the Iraqis used ...they have optical sights, no gunnery computer/stabilser (they cannot fire accurately on the move and no night vision

Don't you think that with EMP being a REAL threat the Americans would have proofed their current line tanks/equipment against it

Also ..you should still be able to operate the guns/turret in any case

[Winky]

good point again and also man can attack targets from great distances away with weapons that aren't that technically advanced [like dumb bombs and regular shells]. unless the EMP is like worldwide in some respects: all airplanes everywhere that are flying crash?
again EMP wouldn't eliminate all threats from man.

[themotile]

If they are to stay close to the tones of the book they may need to bring down a few fighting machines, the thunderchild scene was an exercise in momentarily building up hope and then showing how utterly hopeless the situation was when the thunderchild eventualy goes down, if they do this then the shield theory would have to be modified as one of the main compalints about the Pal martians was that they were too invincible and not as Wells intended.

of course "nothing can touch them" does indicate that they are invinsible but lets say one or two are taken down by whatever means, what does that mean in regards to their defences?

[jeffwaynefan]

Tripod said:

Yes it's a cool quote.
But about the tagline maybe they could better change ''They're already here...'' into ''The Last War on Earth won't be started by Humans...''

Tripod

That reminds me. . . In early 1978, the trade poster tagline for Jeff Waynes musical read 'The Last World War'.

H_C