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Post by bradhig on Apr 3, 2004 6:37:41 GMT
In the novel and the radio play the martian machines released black smoke that choked people to death how come it wasn't used in the 1953 movie?
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 3, 2004 23:47:26 GMT
probably too much for an overstretched effects budget... I always chuckle at the obviously painted ash on the floor after the vehicles are vapourised in the big battle.
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Post by Killraven on Apr 5, 2004 10:58:25 GMT
I think the filmmakers found black smoke superfluous and neatly ignored it...after all, if the martian machines (unlike the more fragile originals) are immune to atomic weaponry  , then why do you need to develop anything more than the heat ray??  |
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Post by krys666 on Aug 23, 2004 19:15:31 GMT
I have just thought.. Why didn't they need to capture humans? Did they feed? We do not see or hear anything about human farm, handling machines or tentaclas/claws on the machines.  What about a flying handling machine???  Would human bunkers or places for protection from a bomb or war protect humans from the radioactive rays or whatever they are? What about underground, why did humans climb to the top of a hill, what if a cylinder falls on it or the martians get there anyway? With all the juicy to kill??? |
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Post by Stuuullaaa on Aug 26, 2004 5:54:57 GMT
Just adding to the Black Smoke thing, there was also no Red Weed either  !! In my opinion they missed out quite alot of important factors of the story, and yet, they put in what I thought was one of the best & eeriest bits of the story, being the farmhouse being flattened by one of there very hot Martian Rugby Balls |
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Post by Killraven on Aug 27, 2004 17:07:17 GMT
and yet, they put in what I thought was one of the best & eeriest bits of the story, being the farmhouse being flattened by one of there very hot Martian Rugby Balls ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by the Donal on Aug 27, 2004 19:35:49 GMT
I Still find the part where the heat ray debuts the scariest part of the movie.
dum..............dum...............dum..................dum.............
dum...dum...dum...dum....dum...dum...eoooooooow! (cue people becoming atomic shadows...)
I think it still stands up to today as a great movie ('cept the barn dance and the haircuts/fashion! Dosie D'Oh!)
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Post by Stuuullaaa on Aug 28, 2004 17:05:18 GMT
Yeah and except for that fat git ranger guy who works up at 'Pine - Summit'. He wants to learn some God damn manners when he's eatin' his fish sandwich or whatever it was - and as for helping himself to a cigarette out of the top pocket of the other scientist guy (whatever his name is)!!!!........ I'd of give him a dry slap!!!! (in the voise of Mike Reid) |
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Aug 28, 2004 18:05:32 GMT
Heh, yeah. It always creases me up when he spits fish everywhere. Cheeky git.
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Post by krys666 on Sept 28, 2004 21:13:11 GMT
Tipical! Just before you set out to see some martians and their huge rugby ball. A big fat git comes along and gets your cigarette! But with the black smoke, wouldn't it be easy to do? I thought smoke effects, even just normal cheap smoke was cheap... What about that fat git smoking? That could be used for the Smoke!!  I'll make a list of the missed important things!! RED WEED FIGHTING MACHINES (except for the England part!  ) MARTIANS HAVING 2 EYES MARTIANS HAVING TENTACALS HANDLING MACHINE BLACK SMOKE STEAM GUN (thingy from book) DIGGING MACHINE BAR MAKING MACHINE MARTIAN BASE/FARMS HEAT RAYS BEING HELD BY TENTACALS THUNDERCHILD CAPTURING HUMANS and there are probably more, just say and i will modify!!  |
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Post by syrtismajor on Feb 9, 2005 16:27:21 GMT
krys666,
I always saw the Nuclear bomb as being the equal to the Thunderchild. Seeing how it showed all those people rallying behind it in the hope that 'the best science' can defeat them, only for it to fail and hope to be lost. In the film, that scene marks the boundary where humanity (or the Americans at least) basically give up. I love the line,
'Guns! Tanks! Bombs! They're like toys against them. They'll stomp the city flat.'
Just like the end of the first book when the Thunderchild is destroyed do you think?
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Post by I own a cylinder on Feb 9, 2005 18:01:35 GMT
Yeah and except for that fat git ranger guy who works up at 'Pine - Summit'. He wants to learn some God damn manners when he's eatin' his fish sandwich or whatever it was - and as for helping himself to a cigarette out of the top pocket of the other scientist guy (whatever his name is)!!!!........ I'd of give him a dry slap!!!! (in the voise of Mike Reid) I think the scientist was BILDABECK |
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Post by Gnorn on Feb 9, 2005 18:05:19 GMT
I think the scientist was BILDABECK Actually, that would be Bilderdyk. A Dutch name with an American twist, like Vanderbilt. -Gnorn |
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Post by maniacs on Feb 10, 2005 14:38:59 GMT
I love the bit where the first guys get toasted and one of them still holds his hat in the three outlines on the floor.
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Post by Gerkinman on Feb 12, 2005 3:56:35 GMT
I love the way they are like, okay, were gonna drop an a-bomb now, cover your eyes and crouch down and youll be fine XD yeh right mate |
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Post by malfunkshun on Feb 12, 2005 18:20:30 GMT
I love the way they are like, okay, were gonna drop an a-bomb now, cover your eyes and crouch down and youll be fine XD yeh right mate as long as you're shielded from the initial blast of radiation and heat, and are far enough away from the shock wave, then yeah, you'll be fine if you do that. its the fallout that you have to worry about |
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Post by syrtismajor on Feb 12, 2005 18:59:35 GMT
And if it was an airburst there wouldn't even be that much fallout. The fallout is really only dangerous for two weeks as well.
It is true that it is only the initial heat and radiation burst with the shockwave that are really dangerous with a single detonation. It takes a 'combined effort' to produce enough fallout to be lethal over a large area, or a ground burst of a primitive nuke.
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Post by malfunkshun on Feb 12, 2005 19:27:20 GMT
And if it was an airburst there wouldn't even be that much fallout. The fallout is really only dangerous for two weeks as well. It is true that it is only the initial heat and radiation burst with the shockwave that are really dangerous with a single detonation. It takes a 'combined effort' to produce enough fallout to be lethal over a large area, or a ground burst of a primitive nuke. you're flat out wrong there, an airburst is designed to destroy a much larger area, thus more debris contributing to the fallout. when a nuke is airburst, its destructive radius is allowed to expand through the air, and when it hits the ground, a lot more is destroyed. when its exploded at ground level, the ground absorbs a lot of the shock, negating most of the effects of the destruction over distance. |
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Post by Gerkinman on Feb 13, 2005 10:06:06 GMT
if memory serves me correctly they werent very far away at all from the blast, like maybe even close even.
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Post by themotile on Feb 14, 2005 12:33:12 GMT
They all would have been fine, up until there balls dropped off.
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, then why do you need to develop anything more than the heat ray?? 
!! In my opinion they missed out quite alot of important factors of the story, and yet, they put in what I thought was one of the best & eeriest bits of the story, being the farmhouse being flattened by one of there very hot Martian Rugby Balls 
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