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Post by jeffwaynefan on Apr 21, 2005 23:34:43 GMT
How many more times do we have to keep reading the same thing over and over again - 'I dont like this, I dont like that'. Talk about flogging a dead horse. We have heard it ALL before, day in and day out, the beat never seems to change. WE KNOW guys, we know, how many more times do you have to say it.
You say that this company or that company are crapping on HG from a great height, dragging his name through the dirt, disliking what people do to his works, saying he deserves better than this - THEN you right the stuff posted above.
So you dont like this or that, do us all a favour, you only have to say it once for people to take note, move on and let someone else have a say and a chance to come to like what ever it may be.
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Post by BrutalDeluxe on Apr 21, 2005 23:36:19 GMT
As someone already stated, this film is gonna steal what is left of Pendragon's "heat" if they don't get a wriggle on. This one looks worth a gander, even if it has the high propensity to blow. I have sat through a fair share of Z-grade movies in my time and this one at least looks J-grade ;D Unfortunately the WOTW bandwagon is well and truely rolling so who knows how many shabby knockoffs we will have to endure.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 22, 2005 0:01:30 GMT
How many more times do we have to keep reading the same thing over and over again - 'I dont like this, I dont like that'. Talk about flogging a dead horse. We have heard it ALL before, day in and day out, the beat never seems to change. WE KNOW guys, we know, how many more times do you have to say it. You say that this company or that company are crapping on HG from a great height, dragging his name through the dirt, disliking what people do to his works, saying he deserves better than this - THEN you right the stuff posted above. So you dont like this or that, do us all a favour, you only have to say it once for people to take note, move on and let someone else have a say and a chance to come to like what ever it may be. therin lays the problem. All we got is to whinge moan and gripe. every subject has been gone over a million times already, there is nothing left to say until these films come out. if all the people like me who whinged were to leave tomorrow all there would be is the mods & DF and Otto.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Apr 22, 2005 0:52:24 GMT
How many more times do we have to keep reading the same thing over and over again - 'I dont like this, I dont like that'. Talk about flogging a dead horse. We have heard it ALL before, day in and day out, the beat never seems to change. WE KNOW guys, we know, how many more times do you have to say it. You say that this company or that company are crapping on HG from a great height, dragging his name through the dirt, disliking what people do to his works, saying he deserves better than this - THEN you right the stuff posted above. So you dont like this or that, do us all a favour, you only have to say it once for people to take note, move on and let someone else have a say and a chance to come to like what ever it may be. I think we're all guilty of repeating ourselves from time to time and seeing as this is a new film that we've just heard about - surely we're entitled to share our views on it. Some of the things have been said before yes but not in relation to this particular film, so surely there's a bit of a difference than if we were just moaning in the Pendragon or Paramount section. If other people want to disagree then there's absolutely nothing stopping them from posting their own comments.
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Post by timeship2 on Apr 22, 2005 2:16:48 GMT
This is the often quoted answer to those who are in disagreement as if the word 'freedom' somehow makes everything all right. I guess we can all pack our bags and go home now. Freedom of expression still carries responsbility. Of course the other side of the coin is that the criminal elements of society are also 'freer' to express themselves too, and I'm sure no one ever says that this part of the equation is a necessarily a good thing except well maybe those involved in the crime industry My point being that with freedom, you have to take the good with the bad ie you will get complainers/whingers/moaners etc. Just listen to NPR. If those presenters think they are not whinging/moaning etc then I've got news for them.... We all complain at some point and I'm just as guilty of this as anyone. In a free society this should be celebrated but too often I notice there seems to be a concerted effort to shove this aspect of society under the carpet. Life would be sooo plastic and clinical if everyone walked around with big smiles agreeing with everything. It was the whinging and complaining that made America great, not the 'yes' men. On a different note, what I really want to know though, is why all the fascination by movie studios with War of the Worlds all of a sudden? This is taking the "No buses for while, then 3 come along at once" to a whole new level!
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Apr 22, 2005 3:09:51 GMT
This is the often quoted answer to those who are in disagreement as if the word 'freedom' somehow makes everything all right. I guess we can all pack our bags and go home now. Freedom of expression still carries responsbility. Of course the other side of the coin is that the criminal elements of society are also 'freer' to express themselves too, and I'm sure no one ever says that this part of the equation is a necessarily a good thing except well maybe those involved in the crime industry My point being that with freedom, you have to take the good with the bad ie you will get complainers/whingers/moaners etc. Just listen to NPR. If those presenters think they are not whinging/moaning etc then I've got news for them.... We all complain at some point and I'm just as guilty of this as anyone. In a free society this should be celebrated but too often I notice there seems to be a concerted effort to shove this aspect of society under the carpet. Life would be sooo plastic and clinical if everyone walked around with big smiles agreeing with everything. It was the whinging and complaining that made America great, not the 'yes' men. On a different note, what I really want to know though, is why all the fascination by movie studios with War of the Worlds all of a sudden? This is taking the "No buses for while, then 3 come along at once" to a whole new level! Good points!
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Post by David Faltskog on Apr 22, 2005 8:43:06 GMT
if all the people like me who whinged were to leave tomorrow all there would be is the mods & DF and Otto. Sounds like fun!. D.F and Otto.
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Post by Gray on Apr 22, 2005 10:24:12 GMT
therin lays the problem. All we got is to whinge moan and gripe. every subject has been gone over a million times already, there is nothing left to say until these films come out. if all the people like me who whinged were to leave tomorrow all there would be is the mods & DF and Otto. It's encouraging to read that from you Rusti. Nice to see that you're self-aware. No one cares if you don't like Pendragon or Tim Hines or whatever; it's that you & a few others go on-and-on about it ad infinitum, on almost every post you make on every board you visit. All you do is piss on the Corn Flakes of anyone interested in the film. It's made coming to these boards a drag and has driven members away, which is a shame. Sometimes I don't think you realize this.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 22, 2005 10:33:09 GMT
It's encouraging to read that from you Rusti. Nice to see that you're self-aware. No one cares if you don't like Pendragon or Tim Hines or whatever; it's that you & a few others go on-and-on about it ad infinitum, on almost every post you make on every board you visit. All you do is piss on the Corn Flakes of anyone interested in the film. It's made coming to these boards a drag and has driven members away, which is a shame. Sometimes I don't think you realize this. Well you perhaps think that i dont care. So what makes you think is give a damn about what you just posted. Maybe YOU dont realise this... ;D
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Post by maniacs on Apr 22, 2005 11:13:34 GMT
It's encouraging to read that from you Rusti. Nice to see that you're self-aware. No one cares if you don't like Pendragon or Tim Hines or whatever; it's that you & a few others go on-and-on about it ad infinitum, on almost every post you make on every board you visit. All you do is piss on the Corn Flakes of anyone interested in the film. It's made coming to these boards a drag and has driven members away, which is a shame. Sometimes I don't think you realize this. fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkkkkkkkkkiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to a tee! Gray, if you want to rebel and expel the current UK government I'm your Right hand man...!!!
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Post by maniacs on Apr 22, 2005 11:14:50 GMT
Dont let it go to your head, tho!!!
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 22, 2005 11:20:34 GMT
Well.. I think everyone has made their point on that score.. And jolly good points they all were too.. Now, can we PLEASE get back on the bloody topic? Ta.
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Apr 22, 2005 12:50:55 GMT
Looking at it in a positive manner - though many will disagree its not WOTW, 1000s of people will see the cover and see H.G. Wells name above the heading. Those who have not heard of HG will become curious and check him out, spawning new followers and fans. Its if and when they read the novel and compare it will they judge whats best - book or films. Thats not a bad thing when you think that before any release of these films, modern day people may, not even bothered, recall the name of H.G. Wells until then.As fans we have no influence over todays society. In a world thats almost full of 21st century electronic gadgets, what do you think the percentage is of people who actually take time out to 'read' a book, a hell of a lot less than say 10 years ago. If a film/documentary can get HGs name recognised, whether it be a good or bad film/documentary, it gives the listener/viewer the choice to follow it up and go out and find more works from the author.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 22, 2005 13:28:32 GMT
I agree Horsell on that point, cr*p or not all these versions will do is promote the works of HG and allow people to see the story in its first best form: the book.
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Apr 22, 2005 14:39:22 GMT
I think that now matter what film is released there will be something in there where we mentally connect back to the book. One example the image of C.T Howell peering through blocked window slit. If this is from a scene in the film that has nothing to do with WOTW intentionally, we look at it and say 'ahhh, thats from the chapter in the book - what we saw from the ruined house' and that way WE make the decision its from WOTW. In one way Im satisfied as a fan that they have used HGs name on the cover IF there are plenty of referances in the film that connects us and others to the book, but in another way displeased if there are no referances to the book and they still use his name in the heading. . . . Does that make sense?
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 22, 2005 15:01:54 GMT
personally (this is me mind you) i'd rather see a reletivly near to the book version and drop the name. than have a radically altered version and keep the name.
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Post by D.A.V.E on Apr 22, 2005 17:10:24 GMT
I've just been looking at the Asylum website. I can't believe this is for real. Half the website doesnt work, and whenever you try to look at anything about it, i.e a trailer or its marketing info or release info, it says I dont have permission or credentials. And its like that through most of the site. At first, I thought this looked like a great movie to rival PP version, but with so little information about it, it just looks like a total joke. I want them to remove their H.G Wells' War of the Worlds, and repackage it as "Invasion". Besides, I think its rather presumptious of them to show their DVD packaging before the film has been completed. What makes them so sure people will buy it?
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 22, 2005 17:25:45 GMT
I think they've got most of that there to generate retail interest rather than for us plebs. Some of the links take you to a page saying 'forbidden'. does that mean you need a log in to access it or something?
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Apr 22, 2005 17:26:39 GMT
Beleive me, people WILL buy it.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Apr 22, 2005 18:10:02 GMT
I've just been looking at the Asylum website. I can't believe this is for real. Half the website doesnt work, and whenever you try to look at anything about it, i.e a trailer or its marketing info or release info, it says I dont have permission or credentials. And its like that through most of the site. At first, I thought this looked like a great movie to rival PP version, but with so little information about it, it just looks like a total joke. I want them to remove their H.G Wells' War of the Worlds, and repackage it as "Invasion". Besides, I think its rather presumptious of them to show their DVD packaging before the film has been completed. What makes them so sure people will buy it? if you go to the 'pics' thread the production company has 9 pages of production photos,,,
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