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Post by matzo on Aug 30, 2005 17:05:04 GMT
Hi all, just wondering, why did the martians creat a storm, when they could just blow the cylinders with martians in them strait to earth??  |
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Post by sasarma on Aug 30, 2005 18:24:55 GMT
Maybe spielberg wanted a different approach instead of doing what everyone else did.
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Post by Poyks on Aug 30, 2005 18:25:30 GMT
It would seem that they weren't martians at all, so where ever they came from would be too far for your common or garden cylinder.
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Post by matzo on Aug 30, 2005 18:53:10 GMT
Got ya, anyhoo what was the point off saying the tripods ave been on earth for millions of years, considering the martians could have invaded then!
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Post by timeship2 on Aug 30, 2005 21:49:00 GMT
Maybe spielberg wanted a different approach instead of doing what everyone else did. It was done solely for dramatic effect. It is a throwback to Close Encounters. In my opinion this part of the movie made less sense than the original cylinders in the novell and many here think they would have worked just as well. |
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Post by Spirit of Man on Aug 31, 2005 3:02:50 GMT
Got ya, anyhoo what was the point off saying the tripods ave been on earth for millions of years, considering the martians could have invaded then! They were waiting until there was enuff fertiliser (human blood) for the red weed (terraforming plant). |
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Post by matzo on Aug 31, 2005 7:50:09 GMT
bloody hell ahhh, i necer thought of that!
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Post by Refugee on Aug 31, 2005 12:23:45 GMT
The storm is an example of pathetic fallacy, when the weather in a piece of art, litterary, cinematic, etc, reflects the mood of the piece as a whole.
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Post by matzo on Aug 31, 2005 12:29:15 GMT
i can't handle all those clever words refugee!
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Post by Refugee on Aug 31, 2005 16:32:04 GMT
Basically a storm means bad things are coming, it's a forecast on the upcoming horror of the film.
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Post by FutureDirector on Sept 1, 2005 2:15:40 GMT
to clear this up, ill put together all the theries i've heard.
Ok millions of years ago... On Mars... they had an advanced cilivization that lived withing the planet. Sorta like the Matrix. They sent cylinders to many planets to take over one day, as the cylinders landed with the tripods they waited till the sign was givin. After a few million years the Martians found that the nearby planet Earth had people and wanted our planet to live on. So they created a wormhole (w/e) and teleported to the planet. Thats what the storm was. And I saw a drawing somewhere in these forums about a cylinder underground and the tripod coming out, all fit the scene. So they probably did the same thing for other planets if they got life. Least this is how I belive the story.
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Post by Lensman on Sept 2, 2005 8:58:29 GMT
Interesting, I'd never heard the term "pathetic fallacy", and my Merriam-Webster dictionary doesn't even list that meaning for "fallacy" (altho there *is* a separate entry for "pathetic fallacy").
Anyway, take your pick of the following:
A) Storms in movies symbolize the approach of danger, just as rain symbolizes sadness.
B) Spielberg loves to put big thunderclouds into his science fiction movies (see "Close Encounters" for some very prominant examples).
C) All of the above.
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Post by Refugee on Sept 2, 2005 11:17:35 GMT
Fallacy just means mistake or misconception in some cases, such as a logical fallacy but I'm not entirely sure of its exact deffinition when appearing alone.
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Post by Lensman on Sept 2, 2005 20:57:35 GMT
"fallacy" as used in modern English usually means "a false or mistaken idea". An older definition is trickery or deception. Merriam-Webster defines "pathetic fallacy" as "the ascription of human traits or feelings to inanimate nature (as in cruel sea)". I can't find any pertinant entry in the Oxford English Dictionary. I confess I don't quite see how "fallacy" can be synonymous with "metaphor", as it seems to be in this term. [Lensman has now demonstrated-- just in case anyone had the slightest doubt-- that since he has time to look up words in dictionaries for participation in this forum, that he offically Has No Life Whatsoever.  ] |
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Post by Refugee on Sept 2, 2005 22:25:25 GMT
"[Lensman has now demonstrated-- just in case anyone had the slightest doubt-- that since he has time to look up words in dictionaries for participation in this forum, that he offically Has No Life Whatsoever. ]"
Nevermind there is still time to get one lol. Based on what we have done in English at college pathetic fallacy works for the storm.
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Post by Rob on Sept 3, 2005 13:22:55 GMT
I've also thought that the storm could link to the novel. When the tripods are first seen by the narrator it is during a massive thunderstorm.
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Post by timeship2 on Sept 3, 2005 14:37:31 GMT
The online version at www.m-w.com does: Main Entry: fal·la·cy Pronunciation: 'fa-l&-sE Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -cies Etymology: Latin fallacia, from fallac-, fallax deceitful, from fallere to deceive 1 a obsolete : GUILE, TRICKERY b : deceptive appearance : DECEPTION 2 a : a false or mistaken idea <popular fallacies> b : erroneous character : ERRONEOUSNESS 3 : an often plausible argument using false or invalid inference |
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Post by smackie1973 on Sept 25, 2005 17:51:50 GMT
The storm was used to knock out communications by using EMPs'.
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