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Post by lucifer on Jul 21, 2005 18:00:16 GMT
I saw the film when it came out a couple weeks back but my PC's been down since then. I thought the opening scene when the FM comes out the ground was truly awesome but as soon as ray etc left town in there car that was it.Iwas like 'no stay there and lets see what happens'i wanted to see destruction! I wanted to see the tripods as the main theme of the film which is what the book,musical is all about. I liked the way SS stayed away from the id4 style, you know when everyones 'yeh lets go kick there asses' Lets face it if it really was to happen we would all nuts ourselves and run. Plus it was like the damn film had a big chunk missing.One minute they are under the house then in Boston,Martians dead,end of story? I think the reason I'm so disappointed is that i have been anticipating this movie since the day i heard SS and cruise were doing it.SS is like the greatest film maker ever and cruise just makes even the geekiest of films look cool.Pendragon looks absolutely nutse and the asylum one looks like something thats on sky 1.I cant wait for the Jeff Wayne cgi film to come out with the music etc it should be amazing(have you seen the add for the re-release of the album?)I think the musical is what makes wotw so truly amazing and original. If theres any spoiler in this passage then tough nuts-shame on you for not going to see it yet.
peace
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Post by maniacs on Jul 21, 2005 18:55:36 GMT
Wrong - Peter Jackson is the greatest film director.
If SS had made LOTR it would have been modernised and set in New England with a little girl (not a hobit) taking a small, disguised thermo nuclear device *(which she found wilst playing, told her uncle who has a heart of gold but is also an alchaholic, and who would have recognised it etc) to wipe out some evil south American dictator.
*magic rings being far fetched an all.
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Post by lucifer on Jul 21, 2005 22:06:12 GMT
we all have our own opinions,i aint gonna argue with ya but E.T,CLOSE ENCOUNTER,JAWS?,are not just films but momments in time for me.If SS had made wotw in england,london then people would have said it was like a BBC production(u.k. t.v company who produce low budget programs for t.v).I dont think this film shows off any of the charactaristics of SS from his other films
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Post by robkral on Jul 21, 2005 22:06:13 GMT
.I cant wait for the Jeff Wayne cgi film to come out with the music etc it should be amazing(have you seen the add for the re-release of the album?)I think the musical is what makes wotw so truly amazing and original. peace I think its justified to hope that JW will make a better version in lots of ways.....it's a matter of TIMING in the story, I too felt chunks or at least one or two big chunks were left out. But Jeff Wayne, being a MUSICIAN, really knows TIMING, and that's why I believe he will pace it out to FEEL RIGHT. Many folks say "yeah well the book ends abruptly". NO IT DOESN'T: we do SUDDENLY (more or less) DISCOVER the Martians are dying, but it is NOT abrupt: there's all those days with the Artilleryman, gradually realising the futility, there's the walk away from A-Man, its GRADUAL, there's hearing the martian cries, EXPERIENCING what on earth is happening? THEN there's a decision to end his life etc...its NOT ABRUPT!! One thing leads gently into the other....the timing and pacing is GREAT, not swift or with the feeling that you missed something. Music composers fully understand this: one thing leads into the other and the timing must be right.
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Post by lucifer on Jul 21, 2005 22:09:09 GMT
I will be honest and say i have never read the book.I have grown up with the musical.As far as im concerned(no disrespect) the musical is wotw.Its like grease or wizard of oz as a normal film.It just dont work,theres no magic.
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Post by Gnorn on Jul 21, 2005 22:31:15 GMT
Lucifer, you really should read the book! I promise, you will not be dissapointed.
-Gnorn
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Post by Gnorn on Jul 21, 2005 22:32:10 GMT
O yeah, that book is NOT now a movie with Tom Cruise! lol
-Gnorn
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Post by maniacs on Jul 22, 2005 9:47:29 GMT
we all have our own opinions,i aint gonna argue with ya but E.T,CLOSE ENCOUNTER,JAWS?,are not just films but momments in time for me.If SS had made wotw in england,london then people would have said it was like a BBC production(u.k. t.v company who produce low budget programs for t.v).I dont think this film shows off any of the charactaristics of SS from his other films I'm sure you liked em matey and your right - each to their opinions. Unfortunatly close encounters bored the crap outa me, Jaws was very suspenceful-fair enough, but ET was silly, dying and then coming back to life with a bulb in his chest, hey_what. SS one minute wants realism then wants downright silly!!! As for SPR. A great movie to watch but I've seen similar techniques used in low budget movies long before it. SS only had to combine them. Dont credit it all to SS. WOTW would have been a cracker but he removed even the slightly more realistic fact of making them martians. Instead he decided it was far more realistic to have 100+ feet machines lurking underground. WTF! I ignored the beginning and took it down as vastness of advance tech but then he had to produce a still showing it was a pilot entering the machine that was buried. It was if he was saying 'fuuuuux u they are buried in the ground!!!'. As for the alien design. They were ID4 aliens out of their battlesuits and a limb removed.!!!
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Post by maniacs on Jul 22, 2005 10:05:31 GMT
But hey!!! Maybe SS is right. The average movie goer has one brain cell and will never...
1 Read the actual book!
2 Question the fact that they buried and no one found them even when they were buried under cities - and please dont say ' there were no subways or water mains under there!!! ' because then I have to put it down to incredible coincedence that New York and Londo and Pawwy had nothing buried beneath them.
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Post by timeship2 on Aug 1, 2005 2:14:07 GMT
Lucifer, you really should read the book! I promise, you will not be dissapointed. -Gnorn I agree with Gnorn, you really should read the book. It's a very easy down to earth read, not like the hard science fiction I often prefer. It's also quite a short book too. If you only ever read one science fiction novel in your entire life, then make it War of the Worlds :-) Even my wife who is not a prolific reader, read it during the week or so before the movie and liked it a lot! Although she loves science fiction movies, she is not into reading Science Fiction novells normally.
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Post by timeship2 on Aug 1, 2005 2:20:12 GMT
But hey!!! Maybe SS is right. The average movie goer has one brain cell and will never... 1 Read the actual book! 2 Question the fact that they buried and no one found them even when they were buried under cities - and please dont say ' there were no subways or water mains under there!!! ' because then I have to put it down to incredible coincedence that New York and Londo and Pawwy had nothing buried beneath them. I think that's the problem, Spielberg has the talent but he is more into making money and taking advantage of opportunity. The fact that the Tripods were spot on and very impressive for most of us, is what makes it so sad. He was touching the edges of greatness, but decided to toss the rest in the trashcan so to speak. He decided that keeping people on the edge of their seats was enough and that's where it finished, he was concerned.
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Post by uuulllaaa on Aug 1, 2005 18:11:06 GMT
I do like spielburgs War of the worlds but its not the movie it should have been and i put that all down to a RUSHED schedule.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Aug 1, 2005 18:51:19 GMT
I don't think it's just the rushed schedule. The movie had some good set pieces and fx but that's about it. Also Cruise and to some extent Fanning have put a lot of people off this film and that damage can't be fixed.
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Post by uuulllaaa on Aug 1, 2005 22:17:54 GMT
I really thought Cruise and especially fanning were great in the movie,but i cant help feeling that the script was written to minimise the amount of tripod footage because of the tight schedule.Take a look at that poster that was given out at the comic con ,theres not one scene in the movie that looks as good as that poster suggests.As i said i DO like the movie ive not a problem with whats there its what is not there.
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ClaytonForrester
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Post by ClaytonForrester on Aug 4, 2005 2:13:52 GMT
Well,I thought that the Tripods were awesome AND menacing.At least they DID have the holding baskets for the captured humans and there was blood-drinking implied.The whole project was Half-Wells and half-1953 Version.But it just wasn't long enough.I kept wanting to see more of the Tripods in action ,personally.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Aug 4, 2005 2:40:27 GMT
Well the tripods were good I'll say that much.
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