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Post by Lensman on Aug 29, 2005 23:50:00 GMT
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Aug 30, 2005 0:56:51 GMT
Oh yes! Hines is such a Wells fan that he makes a film which is a complete and utter joke. And who can forget that fake story about him setting his parents house on fire when he was a kid.
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Post by bittersound on Aug 30, 2005 10:54:28 GMT
Oh yes! Hines is such a Wells fan that he makes a film which is a complete and utter joke. Oh dear, here we go again. I'm assuming you are directing your bile at the "Mr. Hines clearly loves, admires, and adores the H.G. Wells source material. (And "to a fault" would be understating the matter.)" sentence, yes? Did you read the rest of the review, in context? Regardless of the talent (or lack thereof) that Tim Hines parades on his DVD do you not think on reflection that your comment is unfair? For example, I am a massive Led Zeppelin fan and dabble about with guitars now and again. Does this now mean that I should not attempt to play a Led Zeppelin song purely because I wouldn't do it the justice that many a rabid fan would demand? |
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Aug 30, 2005 14:42:35 GMT
...do you not think on reflection that your comment is unfair? I don't. For example, I am a massive Led Zeppelin fan and dabble about with guitars now and again. Does this now mean that I should not attempt to play a Led Zeppelin song purely because I wouldn't do it the justice that many a rabid fan would demand? No, because you wouldn't go around for 4 years BSing that you're going to turn in a stadium-filling, professional-level performance. And if you did, you'd deserve a right slagging off if you didn't deliver. |
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Aug 30, 2005 18:45:52 GMT
Mctodds made the point for me bittersound. Hines [ whoever he is ] promised so much for his film but he didn't deliver.
It simply ain't good enough when there's thousands, if not millions of fans around the world expecting something special. As Mctodd said when you're playing Led Zeppelin songs you're not promising legions of fans around the world that you're Jimmy Page. Massive difference!
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Post by Lensman on Sept 2, 2005 9:33:54 GMT
I think this review has done the best job of any I've read (including my own) in pointing out the most fundamental flaw in this film. I've beat around the bush to some extent about what this writer states accurately and succinctly: Hines does not understand that translating a book into a film should be an *adaptation*, not a *literalization* of the book. The fact that Hines fails to understand one of the most fundamental concepts of film-making is a strong indication this film is an amateur production, not a professional one at all.
Fallingstar: Don't you think Hines has been embarrassed enuff by his "Plan 9 from Mars"? Leave the paranoia to him-- your suggestion that he was never even *interested* in making a good film indicates Hines is not the only one to see conspiracies where they do not exist.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Sept 2, 2005 21:55:58 GMT
I stand by what I said Lensman. Just like his suspiciously contrived - fake sounding story about him nearly burning the house down when he was a kid [ I've heard a very similar sounding story from another director somewhere ] I think his so called 'enthusiasm' for HG Wells book is also suspiciously fake. Just like I think Spielbergs so called respect for the book is fake.
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Post by Lensman on Sept 3, 2005 5:15:02 GMT
It does seem that Spielberg's "respect" for the novel amounts to no more than lip service.
The odd thing about my opinion of Hines is-- I was involved for a brief time (a few months) with a wannabe local film-maker here. He turned out to be a lot like Hines-- full of promises, hype, and big dreams, but utterly incapable of following through on them. And yeah, at times he came across like a snake oil salesman. But the odd thing is, his girlfriend said that he wasn't really being dishonest; he really did believe in his own pipe-dreams. I believe she was right. And I think Hines is the same sort of person.
Fallingstar, I guess what it boils down to is whether or not we choose to believe the worst about people. I choose not to, and I think if I did I would have a miserable life. Perhaps you have a different perspective on things.
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Sept 3, 2005 9:17:45 GMT
Oddly enough, on the whole, in my saner moments, I really do believe Hines was sincerely trying to make a good film, I really do believe he is a fan of the novel. For that, he earns my grudging respect.
But where I don't have any time for him is the way he BSed even when it must have been clear to him, no matter how deluded he is, that the film was going to be utter pants. And then continuing to defend it, concocting an ever-changing litany of pathetic conspiracy theories to justify himself, and using really quite unpleasant tactics to stifle dissent. For all those he earns my undying contempt.
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