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Post by theredweed on Jun 14, 2005 15:35:31 GMT
about the frame rate mentioned, maybe it has been set the european frame rate which is 24 this would make it appear jerky on american NTSC systems, hopefully my PAL TV will convert it will let you all know when I do.
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Post by seniorfalcon on Jun 14, 2005 16:28:36 GMT
To answer I own a cylinder's question: there are quite a number of scenes with more than one tripod. In fact when they first appear in the thunderstorm there is a scene with two of them, apparently pausing to communicate with each other. Sadly it's not "ulla ulla" but more of a sound like an eagle's cry. I can't remember if there are ever more than two on screen at a time.
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Post by Zoe on Jun 14, 2005 19:15:19 GMT
Can i ask a question. In this film do we see more than 1 tripod on screen or are they only ever 1 tripod in shot. That is a very good question! For me, the most chilling parts in the books were the descriptions of several fighting machines working together - the way they acted like mechanical giants rather than just machines (like tanks for instance). I remember the description of two of the machines picking up their 'stricken companion' and carrying it away...... and how one passed the tubes for firing the Black Smoke to the others..... Also, the way they shouted to each other..... I always imagined that the "Aloo! Aloo!" was only an approximation of the sounds that they made and that they actually co-ordinated their attacks with these sounds - just like spoken commands. So - for me - if we did not see this, if we only ever saw one fighting machine at a time, a lot of the point of the book is lost. If Spielberg does not show that kind of co-ordinated action then I will be disappointed with his production too. If Hines has done that then - in my opinion - he has totally missed the point of the book and failed to interpret it for the screen. Zoe
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Post by jackson on Jun 14, 2005 19:22:42 GMT
hines means beans
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Post by RossH on Jun 14, 2005 19:54:17 GMT
about the frame rate mentioned, maybe it has been set the european frame rate which is 24 this would make it appear jerky on american NTSC systems, hopefully my PAL TV will convert it will let you all know when I do. 24fps is film framerate. NTSC is 29.97fps and PAL is 25fps. If the movie is jerky (I haven't got the movie yet- it's on its way) then it's probably due to bad mastering of the source material at some stage. I fthis was done at the final stage then it's probably fixable (should the movie run to a 2nd pressing; unlikely) but if it was a bad compositing job then the jerkiness is 'baked in'... From what I've seen of the SFX, I suspect the latter...
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Post by lanceradvanced on Jun 15, 2005 3:01:38 GMT
Can i ask a question. In this film do we see more than 1 tripod on screen or are they only ever 1 tripod in shot. There are a couple shots with 2-3 tripods in the film... watchin some of it I wasn't quite sure if it was CG, or modelwork, the distance shots with the martian in Sheperton, looked as if the fighing machine was moving like a marionette... the almost faster than you could see jerks the machines made when striding foreward also made me thing physical model and stop motion... Contering that, the whole juggling disk idea with the heatray, which is patenly impossible on an physical model, makes it obvious that -some- shots were CGI..
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Post by seniorfalcon on Jun 15, 2005 14:30:16 GMT
lanceradvanced wrote: "watchin some of it I wasn't quite sure if it was CG, or modelwork, the distance shots with the martian in Sheperton, looked as if the fighing machine was moving like a marionette... "
"Fighting Machine Puppeteers" are listed in the credits, so it seems that with the exception of a few CGI tweaks they were done as marionettes.
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