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Post by EvilNerfherder on Jun 8, 2005 23:56:17 GMT
It's alright Poyks.. it DOES look a bit like that doesn't it..
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Post by Poyks on Jun 9, 2005 0:11:36 GMT
Dare you to change it for one hour!!! lol!
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Post by Poyks on Jun 9, 2005 0:50:48 GMT
LMFAO!!!!! Nice one Nerf!!!
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Post by recumbentrider on Jun 10, 2005 0:54:36 GMT
As I was thinking about this film, I remembered something else in the film I thought was clever; in the scene where the singer is being attacked by the handling machine, the background music changed to the song the woman was singing in the music hall earlier in the film. I thought this was a very clever use of the music.
Of course, when I was watching the film, the irony of that musical touch didn't have much of a chance to take hold, as the scene quickly degenerated into a crude cartoon of the woman shriveling up while the martians sucked here innards out..
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Post by maniacs on Jun 10, 2005 13:41:39 GMT
Theres an example to my reasoning. Hines has not prioritised his effects. Too much has been added when he could have kept effects to a minimum. The scen he mentioned has no relevance.
If he had kept martian feeding to narration and looks of disgust to the observer I would have forgive the omision. But maybe Hinesy would never have worked this out!
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Post by recumbentrider on Jun 10, 2005 17:04:53 GMT
Theres an example to my reasoning. Hines has not prioritised his effects. Too much has been added when he could have kept effects to a minimum. The scen he mentioned has no relevance. If he had kept martian feeding to narration and looks of disgust to the observer I would have forgive the omision. But maybe Hinesy would never have worked this out! Your proposed change to the scene would have been a vast improvement, and probably would have been easier to put on film. It is too bad Mr. Hines didn't think of this! The scene of the woman trapped in the handling machine was a disappointment to me, not in the scene itself, but in the stupid grade-z computer animation that followed. When I saw this scene in one of the trailers, I thought it was a very powerful scene. (Seeing what the Martians were doing to that woman made me so mad that I wanted to kill the first Martian that I saw!) Instead, the scene became just another missed opportunity...
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Post by JediMartian on Jun 17, 2005 2:00:36 GMT
Hey Nerf, what's that bit about; "EITHER I'M CONCUSSED, OR I'M WATCHING PATRICK MOORE FISTIN..............." Oh yea, I read it wrong!!!! ;D (VOMITS LONG AND LOUD LIKE THE DUMMY IN TEAM AMERICA) EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!! Thats cool ;D
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ClaytonForrester
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Post by ClaytonForrester on Jul 5, 2005 6:21:55 GMT
To begin with,I liked the mood of it.It gave me a sense of the -soon-to-be-destroyed tranquility of rural England.Sure,the acting may have been a bit stilted,but then again so were most Brits of the period in question.The thing with the skeletons...well that could have been done a bit better,but the Martian elements in most of the scenes came across as VERY alien,and very vicious.The coldness and calculating attitude of the invaders was noticibly palpable.Most of the hallmark encounters and tableux that Wells wrote originally are present in this version;even if they were not up to ILM specs,they were nonetheless present.The spirit and flavor were at least heartily attempted,and maintained in this version of the story,including the Narrator's journey from civilized man ,to ,temporarily,a savage scrambling for food and survival.The most valiant,and, if imperfect technically,literarily faithful attempt I have seen.
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Post by robkral on Jul 13, 2005 7:22:10 GMT
There was a brief scene toward the end of the movie where the narrator (I think he was supposed to be in London) came across a woman who committed suicide. I found this particular scene genuinely moving, and believe that it was by far the best scene of the movie. (Oddly enough, I don't think this small scene was in the book, but I could easily be wrong.) Close to the beginning of the chapter "Dead London" Wells wrote, "Farther on was a tattered woman in a heap on a doorstep; the hand that hung over her knee was gashed and bled down her rusty brown dress, and a smashed magnum of champagne formed a pool across the pavement. She seemed asleep, but she was dead." A powerful image, indeed... yeah it was a good scene, I mean a TRULY good scene and probably the best in the film. If they had shown this scene ONLY as a trailer, people would line up to see it. Genuinely effective, completley and utterly disturbing.
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Post by Lensman on Jul 15, 2005 6:41:04 GMT
The most valiant,and, if imperfect technically,literarily faithful attempt I have seen. I envy you. I wish I could have enjoyed it as much as you did!
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Jul 15, 2005 13:54:57 GMT
"What We Liked about This Film"
The 'highlight' of the film for me was the closing credits.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Jul 15, 2005 15:39:54 GMT
i liked the end credits, so i can stop puking.
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Post by maniacs on Jul 15, 2005 18:35:13 GMT
Theres an example to my reasoning. Hines has not prioritised his effects. Too much has been added when he could have kept effects to a minimum. The scen he mentioned has no relevance. If he had kept martian feeding to narration and looks of disgust to the observer I would have forgive the omision. But maybe Hinesy would never have worked this out! If I didn't drink my English would vastly improve. My spoken English is even worst!!!
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Post by maniacs on Jul 15, 2005 18:39:47 GMT
Another problem I felt was sometimes the scenes were over done. Go back to the destruction of Weybridge where the first machine is destroyed.
It gets hit. It moves towards the tower...
It moves towards the tower...
It moves towards the tower...
Almost hits the tower...
It moves towards the tower...
It moves towards the tower...
gets hit...
Finally hits the smegging tower.
Automatically the action is killed. Its almost like the martian takes two step forwards, two steps back. I bet that scene - and the TC scene - would look so much better reedited.
I actually liked many of the FM shots and when you see the full FM, legs an all they look very effective. Very insect like. Ans totally non victorean.
This movie was duly let down by it's editing. I lliked the acting(but not all) and wished the neighbour had been cast as the artillaryman since he did pull of off a better brit accent. The AM sounded very well travelled.
If I were Hinesy I would redo the movie for TV. Then rerelease the DVD as the directors recut.
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Post by maniacs on Jul 15, 2005 19:21:46 GMT
To begin with,I liked the mood of it.It gave me a sense of the -soon-to-be-destroyed tranquility of rural England.Sure,the acting may have been a bit stilted,but then again so were most Brits of the period in question.. This was the period young ladies were taught to walk with books on their heads...
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Post by maniacs on Jul 15, 2005 19:47:00 GMT
As a point in spirit of the thread.
I liked the Observatory scene.
I liked the ruined house. I loved the actual model too.
The brother fighting with ruffians wasn't bad.
Many of the FM shots were good. As said. But Hines missed the most atmospheric shot he could have done though. A shot of the country at dusk and the howls of the martians talking to each other. Send shivers down my spine thinking of it. It just does.
The scene where the woman is being prepared is good upto the CGI shot.
The exodus wasn't bad and what I thought was expected of a low budget production.
Some shots of the actual martians were very good. Hinesy should have been more selective with what he'd shown.
Music was good but I thought sometimes it killed the narration.
The dead suicide women was pretty good.
I thought the battle sequences were ok. But why was Scotty from Star Trek wearing a pink uniform. Had he been to the Blue Oyster bar before going on duty?
The destruction of Woking wasn't bad either but the gore effect of the stamped on women was poor.
The Waybridge bit where the FM throws the man. I love that bit. Xcellant!!!
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Post by Slick2097 on Jul 15, 2005 20:31:56 GMT
ok, what did I like about this film ...
it made me laugh, I dont think it was meant to, but it did.
it had passages directly taken from the book (however badly acted).
the big ben scene, although it is inaccurate as it is not even attached to the House of Commons, the bit where it fell onto the bridge was the best cgi in it.
The ruined house scene was ok (if badly acted).
thats pretty much it, and i'm grasping at straws there.
Ste.
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Jul 18, 2005 18:11:20 GMT
Okay, here's my penn'orth...
The observatory - Ogilvy had more ham than Sainsbury's meat counter, but his portentousness was fun to watch.
The emergence of the Martians from the cylinder, with their unearthly noises, was creepy, spoilt mainly by the surprisingly nimble Martian that breakdanced over the top of the cylinder.
The Writer's first encounter in the storm with the Fighting Machines, despite the awful CGI horse, and some well dodgy day-for-night shots (especially when he and the horse fall down the embankment), was suitably atmospheric.
The attack on Weybridge - although very badly edited, with scenes showing a busy town street juxtaposed with a quiet country path, it at least had some spirit - highlights included the very bad CGI man being hurled into the distance by a Fighting Machine's tentacle; and the destruction of the Fighting Machine, with its associated extraordinary high level flight through the air after colliding with the church tower (oh, and the shot of the chap in the tower shrieking as the Machine bears down is hilarious).
Parts of the ruined house sequence, though it tended to drag, and the Space Cow and Voodoo Barbie spoilt what could otherwise have been some effective work (the Martian bobbing past the broken window is nicely done; other shots of the Martians are rubbish).
The woman suicide in Dead London/That Field, and shots of the fallen Machines showed promise.
There may be other shots (the Handling Machines were generally not bad) but such occasions were few and far between...
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amber14
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Post by amber14 on Jul 19, 2005 10:04:10 GMT
Oh, I agree with you. The suicide disturbed me well into the night, had trouble sleeping! Did anyone else notice how Victorian she looked?
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