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Post by dudalb on Jun 7, 2005 18:45:01 GMT
" am determined to finally see the (un)finished product. I expect it will be terrible but I do enjoy cheesy no-hope films." So Do I! I really suggest that if you go into this film with the same attitude you would if you were watching a Ed Wood or a Uwe Boll film you might get a few laughs. I note that in the negative reviews up at Amazon...apparently the only honest ones...the TV show Mystery Science Theater 3000 is being referred to quite a bit..and no wonder if half of what I have read is true.
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Post by Lensman on Jun 7, 2005 19:45:13 GMT
Too bad this guy has ruined any chance of someone making a turn of the century verision of the story. Oh.... here we go again. Why would you say that? Did the awful cartoon versions of "Lord of the Rings" and "Return of the King" prevent Peter Jackson from making a wonderful "Lord of the Rings" trilogy? Absolutely not!
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Post by Lensman on Jun 7, 2005 19:55:52 GMT
Just a question, when purchasing something from the states, is there any issues regarding paying tax or something? I heard someone mention you need to say it's a "gift", otherwise you can pay heavy duty on it. It's not tax, it's the customs duty at your end. If you make a private arrangement with someone to buy something and send it to you, send them a customs form from your country and have them fill it out, marking it "gift". Presumably, any company that regularly exports items to your country knows about the customs duty. I have no idea how they handle that. Common sense says that it would be fraudulent for a commercial transaction to be labeled "gift" but I'm not a lawyer, so who knows? Anyway, I suggest you e-mail the Customer Service dept. of the company you're buying it from and ask if there will be any problems with customs. At worst, it will be held at your end and you'll have to go down and pay a customs fee. If it's only for 20 British Pounds I can't imagine the customs would be that high.
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Post by dudalb on Jun 7, 2005 20:17:30 GMT
20 Pounds Stirling equals roughly 38.00 dollars and the is a pretty high price to pay for a DVD, period. Frankly, While I am willing..and have..paid Ten bucks just to see what the trainwreck looks like, if it was 35.00 I would wait until I could pick it up cheap on E bay...which won't take long.... I am keeping track of the Dollar/pound rates because I am going on vacation to the UK this August.
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Post by dudalb on Jun 7, 2005 20:21:38 GMT
I think another live action Victorian version will happen, but not in the near future. It took 20 years between the Bashki Fiasco and the Jackson film. The Copyright issues complicate things with WOTW also. I think at least ten years for the next live action period film. But we have Jeff Wayne in the meantime.
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Post by Lensman on Jun 7, 2005 20:56:46 GMT
20 Pounds Stirling equals roughly 38.00 dollars and the is a pretty high price to pay for a DVD, period. I think that was the price of the DVD player he was talking about, not the DVD. "Pay attention, class: There will be a test later!" ;D
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Post by dudalb on Jun 7, 2005 21:18:03 GMT
Sorry. But I would be cautious about a DVD player costing only 38.00. You get what pay for, and something tells me that one that cheap is not going to be very durable. I have found out, the hard way, that buying something really good for a few more bucks is ,in the end, cheaper then buying dirt cheap that breaks down a few weeks after you buy it.
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Jun 7, 2005 21:48:02 GMT
At worst, it will be held at your end and you'll have to go down and pay a customs fee. If it's only for 20 British Pounds I can't imagine the customs would be that high. Pah! You don't know Her Majesty's Customs & Excise, Lensman, they are nothing but a wretched hive of scum and villainy... I got stung three times ordering DVDs from Amazon.com, paying a total of £35 (around $65) for three orders, the total transaction value of which came to around £100 (say $190). In other words, an extra 35% in excise duty. And they wonder why people smuggle stuff in, the f*****s... So I always fill in the 'gift' option now, and a message like: To Roger, You are my favourite person in the world, I love you more than anyone! Love and kisses, RogerAlthough venal, they are also, fortunately, as thick as pig-s**t, and haven't rumbled it yet.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Jun 7, 2005 21:54:33 GMT
I know some of you have already purchased this but I for one am going to boycott this movie. As far as I'm concerned this guy doesn't deserve a penny from any of us.
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Post by mctoddridesagain on Jun 7, 2005 21:59:47 GMT
I agree. But.. I... just... can't... help... myself!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by dudalb on Jun 7, 2005 22:08:59 GMT
"Pah! You don't know Her Majesty's Customs & Excise, Lensman, they are nothing but a wretched hive of scum and villainy..."
Funny, I think the same thing about US Customs and the IRS..... Probably a universal sentiment.
Hey, The film might turn out to be the unintentional laugh riot of the year. We know Hines is not Speilberg, but he still could give Ed Wood a run for his money in the So Bad It's Drop Dead Funny department.
BTW with how bad WOTW has apparently turned out, I admit that I am a little curious to see how Timbo did with Shakespeare in his previus Opus, "A Midsummer's Night Dream"..which, come to think of it, came out in 1999, just about the time that the very good Kevin Klein Version came out. Coincidence with the timing here? You Decide.
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Post by Lensman on Jun 7, 2005 23:00:56 GMT
I think another live action Victorian version will happen, but not in the near future. It took 20 years between the Bashki Fiasco and the Jackson film. Oh, very likely it will be quite some time, 20+ years, before there's any real chance of a *good* version of WotW coming out. Now think hard, Dudalb: what movie is it that will cause that to be? Is it the grade-Z, non-promoted Pendragon version? Let's be honest here: It's the Spielberg production which will affect future WotW productions. The Pendragon one will be nothing but a footnote compared to the impact of that.
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Post by dudalb on Jun 7, 2005 23:40:34 GMT
I have a feeling that someone will attempt a live action period version when the book goes into public domain worldwide..possibly as a TV Miniseries or movie. In the meantime it will be interesting to see what Jeff Wayne comes up with. But you are right, between what happened with "League of Extraodinary Gentlemen " (never has a great concept been so badly handled) and now the Pendragon fiasco (which has attaracted a certain amount of notoriety in the film business) Live Victorian Science Fiction is not going to attract many investors in the near future.
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Post by Lensman on Jun 8, 2005 0:27:56 GMT
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Post by DanMacK on Jun 8, 2005 1:28:59 GMT
recumbentrider, Lensman, thanks for the heads up on this movie and the honest reviews. I was initielly pro-Hines, but have moved my stance to "Middle of the Road". After reading these reviews, I'm starting to lean towards "Cheated". I'll buy the DVD next pay (if I can find it), watch it myself and pass final judgement. I enjoy bad movies, so this helping of cheese may be alright, although I have a feeling it'll be good for a laugh or two, and that's it. Most of the time I have a feeling I'll be shaking my head thinking "Why oh Why?" and "Is it 2007 yet?"
I'm going to be hitting the Paramount version, and I have a feeling it'll be an awesome movie. Much better, and more enjoyable than Hine's farce. Jeff's version will be THE period version, bar none, and 2007 can't come soon enough.
Regards, Dan M.
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Post by Lensman on Jun 8, 2005 2:52:01 GMT
In other words, an extra 35% in excise duty. And they wonder why people smuggle stuff in 35% !! Ouch! Color me "wrong"!
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Post by Lensman on Jun 8, 2005 3:46:10 GMT
After reading that fine review on Eveofthewar.com, it occurs to me that my review may have been overly technical, and perhaps did not really convey why the Thunder Child scene was so bad. So I've added the following to my review:
[Addendum June 7: I'm not sure I've conveyed exactly why this scene is so bad. What the viewer sees is shots of real people on the top deck of the ferry, intercut with what looks like a poorly drawn cartoon of the Thunder Child whizzing around. So the impression the viewer gets is that these people are just watching a cartoon, rather than them watching the action of a British warship against the alien invaders.]
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Post by recumbentrider on Jun 8, 2005 12:15:26 GMT
recumbentrider, Lensman, thanks for the heads up on this movie and the honest reviews I am glad you are finding these reviews useful. I still encourage anyone who hasn't seen it yet to watch the film with other H.G. Wells fans, if at all possible. You could really make a fun 'Mystery Science Theater' party out of it! In three weeks. the Spielberg/Cruise version of War of the Worlds will be in theaters. After this happens, probably a lot of 'casual' sci-fi fans will be buying the Tim Hines DVD version of the film. I have a feeling that their reviews of Mr. Hines' film will be much less kind than ours. I believe that in the weeks following the Spielberg/Cruise movie release, you will see a rash of negative reviews for Mr. Hines' film on Amazon.com and other sites.
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Post by mfortuna on Jun 8, 2005 17:12:25 GMT
I picked this movie up at Walmart yesterday and tried to get my wife to watch it with me. She was too tired. I'm glad she didn't watch it, I would have been so embarrased! I am a long time WOTW fan. The first sci-fi book I read (and probably one of the first books I read at all) was WOTW. I re-read it at least every other year. I liked Pal's movie version and I'm looking forward to June 29th but had hopes for a period piece that was just like the book.
One of the most chilling parts of the book for me was when the young man comes running up to the narrator and says something like, "It's a screwing and a screwing out. I'm going home!" To me that shows the pure terror the martians were capable of. And the terror would only get worse. With this scene missing from the movie my hopes of "just like the book" were already dashed.
I won't go into more detail since I would just be repeating what others said.
My daughter was making Kraft Macaroni and Cheese last night when I started to watch the movie. The box proudly claims it's the cheesiest. Sorry, that claim can now be put on a DVD box.
Mike
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Post by DanMacK on Jun 8, 2005 18:10:43 GMT
Oh I'm going to buy it for several reasons, regardless of the reviews.
1.)It's WOTW 2.)It's cheap (in several ways apparently) 3.)I love bad movies (seen "Hamburger: The Motion Picture?) 4.)I've been monitoring the progress off and on for the last year or two, hoping for the best.
Now it's just a matter of finding the movie up here in the Great White North...
Cheers, Dan M.
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