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Post by HTT on Mar 9, 2005 9:34:37 GMT
Ah! I apologize! I misread the thread and thought we'd moved on to the concept art of the actual martian!
I can see how the concept art of Pendragons 'Blood Farm' has been re-created in the trailer - but is this accurate to the book? I can understand it in a modernised version, but not in an authentic version. In the book, humans were lowered into the pit, and presumably the martians simply fell upon them and feasted - we do not see the actual feeding. An authentic version would see the woman lowered into the pit, then cut to the Writer face as he see's the horror before turning away. All the audience should hear in the screams from the pit, and let the imagination take over.
One thought: The Disrobing Machine footage could be from Pendragons pre 9/11 modern version, and they've either put it into the trailer in error (surely not!), or to save time & money, simply stuck the 'modernised' footage into the 'authentic' version...
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Post by themotile on Mar 9, 2005 20:10:47 GMT
Hines has said many times that they in no way deviated from the book, he said they never needed to. As we never see a woman fed upon in the book and Big Ben doesnt get destroyed in the book (and the woman in the electro bondage scene is not the narrators wife) we have to ask the question how many other scenes have PP added and in how many other ways have they (ahem) not deviated from the book. Thats presuming any of you ever get to see it, but lets just say you do, I think its a valid question and it does keep the subject alive.
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Post by Refugee on Mar 9, 2005 21:00:55 GMT
This what you lookin for Refugee. Thats the stuff but there were also designs of the handling machine, rather achademic now we have seen it and 2 tripod concepts. I have them on disc but dont know how to put them on the site.
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Post by Lensman on Mar 9, 2005 22:04:27 GMT
Altho Hines has claimed they are making an absolutely authentic version, if you read between the lines of what he says, it seems clear (at least to me) that it's an interpretation-- his interpretation. And his interpretation emphasizes the horror aspect. Even if we didn't know that Pendragon was known for making low-budget horror flicks, the green-lightning-bondage scene is a tip-off.
I agree that to remain true to the spirit of the novel, the best representation of the feeding scene would not show the actual feeding, but rather imply it and then shift to the Narrator's reaction to it. But I seriously doubt Hines will be so circumspect.
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Post by quaderni on Mar 9, 2005 23:16:10 GMT
Altho Hines has claimed they are making an absolutely authentic version, if you read between the lines of what he says, it seems clear (at least to me) that it's an interpretation-- his interpretation. And his interpretation emphasizes the horror aspect. Even if we didn't know that Pendragon was known for making low-budget horror flicks, the green-lightning-bondage scene is a tip-off. I agree that to remain true to the spirit of the novel, the best representation of the feeding scene would not show the actual feeding, but rather imply it and then shift to the Narrator's reaction to it. But I seriously doubt Hines will be so circumspect. An adaptation is interpretation, I'd say. And there's nothing wrong with that. Hines is emphasizing his accuracy, and we'll see one way or another. His concepts look fascinating. I hope he pulls it off in the end. On verra... Not to return to the unreliable narrator bit, but the Narrator suggests, at two points, that he couldn't bear watching the feeding, and then at another point he says laconically "I saw the lad killed." I don't think we're supposed to trust entirely what went on in that ruined house, and we should have fun speculating, as readers, what the narrator really saw and did -- from Martian feeding to whether or not he really turned the butcher blade around when he whacked the Curate. Given the Narrator's speculations on the 'descent into animal behaviour', I think we could be rather generous in imagining those scenes. BTW, I liked Hines's original 'feeding concept'. I immediately thought of Marcel Duchamp's _The Bride_. Along those lines, I think it's rather fun to imagine martian technology along the lines of art nouveau and futurist art ca. 1900 - especially BallĂ 's sculptures - or even early cubism. I don't think it's unreasonable to do so, mainly because they formed part of Wells's cultural milieu and were re-thinking the relations between organicism, technology, design, and implementation. I'd love to see the material related in these abstract terms. Sci-fi illustrations tend to be rather literal, and I think Wells's descriptions of Martian technology are made to keep us from doing just that. If interested, one can see the Duchamp here: www.bildindex.de/rx/apsisa.dll/registerinhalt?sid=&cnt=&rid=2&aid=*&query=+xdbpics%3Aalle%20+r1a_name%3A'D*'%20%20+r1a_name%3A%22duchamp,%20marcel%22&no=1&count=50&sort=no&rid=2 #nosmileys
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