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Post by jeffwaynefan on Nov 10, 2006 18:18:49 GMT
The December 2006 issue of DVD Review has a one page spread on the November release of the Jeff Wayne TWOTW "live" concert on DVD.
In the review is a statement from Jeff with regards to the movie version of his classic album. Now that the 2006 tour is over and released on DVD, their current aim is for the December 2007 tour, of which once that is finished, they will then turn to the movie.
Jeff also continues to say that approximately 9 minutes of 'completed' footage has been made.
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Post by Ashe Raven on Nov 10, 2006 18:56:58 GMT
wait wait wait.... 2008 now?
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Nov 10, 2006 19:01:24 GMT
wait wait wait.... 2008 now? No year given, so we could be waiting past 2008.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Nov 10, 2006 21:09:50 GMT
I dunno! When it was first announced that Jeff Wayne was making a film around 2004 - I never thought we would be waiting this long to see it - and now it doesn't look like they'll be starting it until the end of next year. Why can't they still get on with it while the tours are going on - why do they have to wait for the finish of next years tour?
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Post by Commandingtripod on Nov 11, 2006 6:55:54 GMT
. Why can't they still get on with it while the tours are going on - why do they have to wait for the finish of next years tour? That's what I'm wondering. They've got all their CGI stuff for the coming live tour from the last one - unless Jeff's gonna make a couple of changes. Maybe they're gonna wait because Jeff wants to watch over the making of the movie himself?
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Post by David Faltskog on Nov 11, 2006 9:57:05 GMT
I dunno! When it was first announced that Jeff Wayne was making a film around 2004 - I never thought we would be waiting this long to see it - and now it doesn't look like they'll be starting it until the end of next year. Why can't they still get on with it while the tours are going on - why do they have to wait for the finish of next years tour? Money Money Money! must be funny wayne's rolling around in it. God forbid that Waynette would allow 2 WOTW projects in the shops at the same time, sales would suffer and he have less ten pound notes to stuff down his oversized disco bloomers. There's your reason D.F.
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Nov 11, 2006 11:13:00 GMT
I dunno! When it was first announced that Jeff Wayne was making a film around 2004 - I never thought we would be waiting this long to see it - and now it doesn't look like they'll be starting it until the end of next year. Why can't they still get on with it while the tours are going on - why do they have to wait for the finish of next years tour? 2004?, it was anounced publically in 2004 that a film would be ready for 2007, then it was pushed back to 2008. A film has always been on the cards since 1980 - and that was 27 years ago and were still waiting. The problem is the old arch enamy - 'rights'. As I have always seen it - Jeff has the rights to release a musical. He was given those rights before work started on the album. A motion picture would be a differant matter, which the rights belong to Paramount Pictures. Jeff would have to get permission from Paramount to make a movie, then Paramount would received profits due to the motion picture rights. Maybe this is why during the concerts, you see a large amount of still images/artwork and not a full 2 hours of 'moving' footage. By doing this, its takes it away from being almost 2 hours of continuous footage or motion picture. Sorry guys that the 'rights' factor has been bought up again, but you do keep asking Edit: Here is part of the late 2004 press ad
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Post by paco417 on Nov 11, 2006 16:44:07 GMT
They could if rquired start production of the film now while in the process of heading into the 2007 tour, after all with the advent of todays computers it wouldn't bee too difficult to send updates to JW, but thinking about it a bit more i guess he wants to wait until the 2007 tour is concluded before devoting a major slice of his time to the film. I can wait!
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Nov 11, 2006 16:53:48 GMT
I dunno! When it was first announced that Jeff Wayne was making a film around 2004 - I never thought we would be waiting this long to see it - and now it doesn't look like they'll be starting it until the end of next year. Why can't they still get on with it while the tours are going on - why do they have to wait for the finish of next years tour? 2004?, it was anounced publically in 2004 that a film would be ready for 2007, then it was pushed back to 2008. A film has always been on the cards since 1980 - and that was 27 years ago and were still waiting. The problem is the old arch enamy - 'rights'. As I have always seen it - Jeff has the rights to release a musical. He was given those rights before work started on the album. A motion picture would be a differant matter, which the rights belong to Paramount Pictures. Jeff would have to get permission from Paramount to make a movie, then Paramount would received profits due to the motion picture rights. Maybe this is why during the concerts, you see a large amount of still images/artwork and not a full 2 hours of 'moving' footage. By doing this, its takes it away from being almost 2 hours of continuous footage or motion picture. Sorry guys that the 'rights' factor has been bought up again, but you do keep asking Edit: Here is part of the late 2004 press ad Actually Horsell, I wasn't even thinking about rights. I was under the impression [ like I'm sure most people were ] that Jeff 'had' the rights to make his film. If that isn't the case then why did they announce the film?
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Nov 11, 2006 20:12:48 GMT
Actually Horsell, I wasn't even thinking about rights. I was under the impression [ like I'm sure most people were ] that Jeff 'had' the rights to make his film. If that isn't the case then why did they announce the film? Publicity? I have never read or heard of anything that says rights has been granted. Maybe they have, it's only a guess. But who knows other than Jeff, and he's not letting much out of the bag where the film is concerned. All eyes and thoughts are concentrated on the 2nd tour, which I personally think could wait until AFTER the film.
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Post by David Faltskog on Nov 11, 2006 20:31:58 GMT
"All eyes and thoughts are concentrated on the 2nd tour, which I personally think could wait until AFTER the film" Your a close friend of Jeff's Horsell maybe you could give him a friendly nudge in the right direction i.e. fluffy bunny's the tours and get the feckkin' movie made. Ahem. D.F.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Nov 11, 2006 20:49:23 GMT
"All eyes and thoughts are concentrated on the 2nd tour, which I personally think could wait until AFTER the film" Your a close friend of Jeff's Horsell maybe you could give him a friendly nudge in the right direction i.e. fluffy bunny's the tours and get the feckkin' movie made. Ahem. D.F. Hey David - love the UFO saucer!
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Nov 11, 2006 20:50:15 GMT
"All eyes and thoughts are concentrated on the 2nd tour, which I personally think could wait until AFTER the film" Your a close friend of Jeff's Horsell maybe you could give him a friendly nudge in the right direction i.e. fluffy bunny's the tours and get the feckkin' movie made. Ahem. D.F. We stop in regular contact, yes, but I doubt he will take any notice of what I say regarding his film.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Nov 11, 2006 20:59:17 GMT
Actually Horsell, I wasn't even thinking about rights. I was under the impression [ like I'm sure most people were ] that Jeff 'had' the rights to make his film. If that isn't the case then why did they announce the film? Publicity? I have never read or heard of anything that says rights has been granted. Maybe they have, it's only a guess. But who knows other than Jeff, and he's not letting much out of the bag where the film is concerned. All eyes and thoughts are concentrated on the 2nd tour, which I personally think could wait until AFTER the film. Me too! Obviously none of us want the film to be rushed, but at this rate it will be years and years before we get to see it - if at all. It's been years already and I thought Jeff had done a deal with Paramount.
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Post by Stuuullaaa on Nov 12, 2006 11:02:05 GMT
I dunno! When it was first announced that Jeff Wayne was making a film around 2004 - I never thought we would be waiting this long to see it - and now it doesn't look like they'll be starting it until the end of next year. Why can't they still get on with it while the tours are going on - why do they have to wait for the finish of next years tour? 2004?, it was anounced publically in 2004 that a film would be ready for 2007, then it was pushed back to 2008. A film has always been on the cards since 1980 - and that was 27 years ago and were still waiting. The problem is the old arch enamy - 'rights'. As I have always seen it - Jeff has the rights to release a musical. He was given those rights before work started on the album. A motion picture would be a differant matter, which the rights belong to Paramount Pictures. Jeff would have to get permission from Paramount to make a movie, then Paramount would received profits due to the motion picture rights. Maybe this is why during the concerts, you see a large amount of still images/artwork and not a full 2 hours of 'moving' footage. By doing this, its takes it away from being almost 2 hours of continuous footage or motion picture. Sorry guys that the 'rights' factor has been bought up again, but you do keep asking Edit: Here is part of the late 2004 press ad Jon, doesn't Paramount own the rights to the title of 'War of the Worlds' & Jeff owns the rights to ' THE War of the worlds'. Im sure I heard somewhere, on the de-construcing dvd i think, that there is a difference between having the ' THE' at the beginning, & not, with regards the rights?
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Post by Ashe Raven on Nov 12, 2006 14:50:12 GMT
Ahh yes, but Jeff owns the merchendising rights to War of the worlds, and thats where he managed to pull a deal with Paramount
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Post by HTT on Nov 13, 2006 9:10:39 GMT
On the Live tour DVD, he does say that he hoped to return the following year with a bigger and better show - so I'd expect the CGI to be tinkered with. In the DVD special features about putting together the tour, you can see how rushed the CGI was - 11 days to do the whole of Act II. This would explain why a lot of CGI is repeated in the show. Now they have a lot more time to extend and improve the background footage - perhaps feedback from the tour has given more ideas (eg Martian encampment).
I was always hoping for a 2008 30th anniversary release, but if it's delayed I'd be happy. This is film I want to see on the big screen: An authentic, period version of the novel, augmented by Jeff's music. I'm glad he's taking his time over it, so that new technologies can be exploited.
I'd much rather he ignored the fans cries for getting this movie released and concentrated instead on delivering the best version of the movie he can, rather than bowing to fan pressure and rushing it though and ending up with a rival to Pendragon!
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Post by jeffwaynefan on Nov 13, 2006 12:54:16 GMT
First of all, "film being rushed", JW has had 28 years to do this, that is not what I call "being rushed". The CGI R&D footage has been around for some 2 years.
Regarding the "THE", Yes , that may be correct, but the title is another matter, what is important is the film rights. The merchandise, JW owns the rights over that. One good reason we did not see Paramount merchandise all over the place could be due to this.
CGI footage in the concert - 11 days for act 2, rushed yes, but maybe money is also to blame. Why did it take 11 days to do the cgi work?, the concert was being put together month before that. Maybe they felt that months of work was not needed if they could put something together in such a short space of time with a budget. Afterall, the concert is a multimedia show and NOT a movie.
Ignoring the fans - Not a wise move, he has to listen to the fans, but it is his decision to knock the film up quickly or not. But either way, if the film is completed and released, he will certainly received both praises and critismn, because the film will not follow the book exactly, word for word - you can't please everyone.
Looking like Pendragon - Damn, the short amount of CGI footage used in Jeffs concert not only betters that of the Pens film but also that of Spielbergs.
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Post by Ashe Raven on Nov 13, 2006 14:47:30 GMT
I can't agree with you Horsal on the CG front
It was fantastic, miles better wataching Jeff's version than Speilbergs version, but effectily not realistic, which of course it shouldnt have been anyway.
I think you are treading fine ground when you compare stage production to movie production. Despite my misgivings about Spielbergs film I won't let my opinion cloud my judgement on CG and effects.
As I said though, visually, Jeff's live version will always win with me. Had the CG stood on it's own with out the accompanment of of Waynes music, the overall impression from newcomers would have been remarkably different.
We have to be careful when we try to insist on CG and special effects over the content of the product. This is why Speilberg and Pendragon failed and Jeff ultimatly came out on top of.
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Post by damiancollier1 on Nov 14, 2006 2:42:22 GMT
Hello All
I read this chain and I wanted to reply:
1. Jeff has a right to make a movie and TV series based on his musical version. The rights were included as part of a deal with Paramount in 2004.
2. The delay is not because Jeff wants to earn more money as someone suggested by eeking out each project, and he is very keen to produce and release the CGI Film.
3. The delay has been because the deal for Live Tours came along unexpectedly in August 2005 and are taking up all of our time. The reality is that it is just Jeff and myself who are putting together these productions and there are only so many hours in one day. Neither of us want to rush anything our or produce anything that is substandard.
The 2nd UK Tour could not wait several years as it is Promoter-driven. Judging by the pre-orders of tickets it also seems to be fan-driven too!
We know how much you want the CGI film and we would dearly love to get it going and released but in reality it is going to be some time before that is the case. I don't have a timeframe on this as of this posting.
Hopefully, with the Live Show only having taken place in April 2006, then the DVD in November 2006 (which took several months to mix after the Live Show finished), you'll have enjoyed what we have brought out on TWOTW this year and we hope to bring you more in the years to come...
All the Best Damian
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