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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 1, 2004 23:50:01 GMT
It's only recently I've become interested in the man himself,although I've been a fan of WOW for many years. I'm sure I saw a bit of a programme about him long ago and they were saying that he was a great advocate of 'Free-love' and had quite a stable of ladies at his disposal..Did I hear this right or am I confusing him with someone else?
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Post by Earthrise on Apr 8, 2004 1:32:50 GMT
Yeah, I heard her was a bit of a ladies man, also married his cousin. Seems he was a man before his time, sexually liberal during Victorian England and active into his old age. A truly modern man.
Earthrise
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Apr 8, 2004 20:19:25 GMT
So I did hear correctly...That's quite a radical stance for someone to take during those times...despite the fact that he would have made other men secretly jealous of him!Of course,those denouncing him would ,as like as not,been hypocrites.Vice was well known but swept under the carpet and people are people no matter what the establishment would have liked you to believe.It's these same people who allowed child prostitution to prosper after all. Victoria herself apparently refused to admit that lesbians existed...how does it become like this?...Is a whole society's behaviour governed by a frigid old Queen?Or was she too a hypocrite?It was rumoured that she was having 'relations' with John Brown in her later years.Fascinating subject.
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Post by Bayne on Jul 9, 2004 22:22:52 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]On the subject of Wells and controversy, one website said Wells was a rabid Anti-Semite and that WotW's martians were based off an anti-semitic caricature. It seems extremely doubtful to me. [/glow]
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Post by Charles on Jul 10, 2004 3:16:29 GMT
This charge surfaces every so often. Its what you get when you read too much Michael Coren and are infected with “Tall-Poppy Syndrome.” Certainly there were references to Jewish types here and there in Wells’ novels (not uncommon for the time), but nothing that should brand him an anti-semite, not by any stretch of the imagination. “Anticipations” contains a few stark social Darwinist-like passages and flirtation with the idea of eugenics, but these types of ideas were repudiated by him not very much later. As far as Wells’ views of Jews in the period 1895 – 1902, take this abridged passage from “Anticipations;”
“I really do not understand the exceptional attitude people take up against the Jew. The Jew asserts himself in relation to his nationality with a singular tactlessness, but it is hardly for the English to blame that…much of the Jew’s usury is no more than social scavenging. The Jew will probably lose much of his particularism, intermarry with Gentiles, and cease to be a physically distinct element in human affairs in a century of so. But much of his moral tradition, I hope, will never die…”
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Post by Charles on Jul 10, 2004 3:24:05 GMT
Yeah, I heard her was a bit of a ladies man, also married his cousin. Seems he was a man before his time, sexually liberal during Victorian England and active into his old age. A truly modern man. Earthrise The best texts for understanding this side of Wells are "H.G. Wells in Love" and "Shadow Lovers" by Andrea Lynn. He wasn't the best looking man in the world; rather short and stout, with a squeaky cockney voice - but at least one lover reported he "smelt of honey." Part of what was so unusual was that he treated his many loves with a great deal of dignity and respect, helping them out long after the affair was over. The other part was that Amy Catherine knew about most of - if not all of his flings right up until her death. If I remember right, he was in France setting up house with Moura Budberg when he learned of Jane's cancer, and rocketed back to England to be by her side until she succumed some time later.
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Post by Sam on Sept 30, 2004 19:52:35 GMT
Yeah guys, I too have heard somethings like this.. Who blames him for being a bit of a ladies man? Sam
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Post by krys666 on Oct 9, 2004 13:55:45 GMT
I don't, because that's what I am! ;D ( ). Have to keep them at bay with a stick or i'll be trampled in their stampied! ;D I think he once worked with curtains or a shop or something like that, and he had a smell of honey or something aorund him, and i think that is what the ladies liked as well!!! ;D But i may be wrong so don't go smearing yoursleef with honey yet!!
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Post by Killraven on Oct 9, 2004 14:22:02 GMT
Yeah guys, I too have heard somethings like this.. Who blames him for being a bit of a ladies man? Sam Yeah Sam, but he wasn't exactly a looker was he? ;D Krys...you're far too young to be thinking of that sort of thing
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Post by krys666 on Oct 9, 2004 15:38:42 GMT
TOO young!! i said, i have to keep them at bay with a stick!!! I ave only seen pic of him when he was about 60 i am guessing, any of him when he was younger??
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Oct 9, 2004 16:23:02 GMT
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Post by Bayne on Oct 9, 2004 23:38:29 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]Of course, fashions in what 'attractive' is change frequently... what did women of his era think of his appearance? [/glow]
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Post by krys666 on Oct 9, 2004 23:44:35 GMT
Probably like me, the girls can't resist me!! ;D ;D ;D And NO there is nothing wrong with them!! I know that is what you are all thinking!! But i shall not tell you of the hidden beuities in case SamJ pops around for a "visit"!! And i am not worried about PhilB and Rees as they know i am the boss and will not even dare!!!
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Post by krys666 on Oct 9, 2004 23:46:47 GMT
Oh and funny message!!! But if they are in the future and we can't toutch them how can we see them?? I am like them pics, you can't toutch me becasue i am in a completely different place in the space-time continuem!! Like IM's Virus!!!
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Post by Sam on Oct 10, 2004 21:06:29 GMT
You do love yourself, dont you Kryss! Sam
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Post by Killraven on Oct 10, 2004 21:13:05 GMT
Krys, does that mean you have a dodgy 'tache as well?? Do the girls like it tickling their noses?? I guess lip ornaments were the height of fashion in the late 1800's. Funny how things change, eh? ;D Actually, while we're on the subject... take a look at those pics - then at the stills of 'the narrator' from the Pendragon site...then back to the pics again... Uncanny, isn't it? ;D
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Post by krys666 on Oct 11, 2004 21:31:37 GMT
I did kinda' have a little tash but got rid of it! So there! And i could make another joke about hair!! I thought that about the Wells lookalike thingy!! Mabey it's a "thing" like i think in one Food for the Gods film one special character is CALLED, Herbet Wells. (Sorry for the spelling!). And Sam, why do I need to love myslef when there are soo many girls there to do it for me! ;D
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Post by Sam on Oct 12, 2004 16:52:45 GMT
Hehe, Ill have to take your word for it Kryss!
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Post by krys666 on Oct 12, 2004 20:08:39 GMT
And theres definatly NO pics of that!! ;D ;D Does anyone know about Well's honey thing?? I'll try to find it again!! ;D
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Oct 12, 2004 23:45:04 GMT
Krys, what do you mean.. the actual 'food of the Gods' that was talked about or what? The food was called 'Herkleophorba' the fourth variation of which was the succesful type, I think. Doesn't it mean something like, 'the food of Hercules' or something? I haven't read the story for ages. Or are you talking about something else entirely?
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