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Post by Commandingtripod on May 12, 2006 7:54:08 GMT
Which movie do we think would the closet adaption to the book so far?
Shock horror! I'm going to say PP WTOW - discounting their effects, acting, buget etc - simply because this one has been set in Victorian England as it should have been in the first place.
What do you others think?
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Post by jeffwaynefan on May 12, 2006 8:00:40 GMT
I have to agree.
As mind numbingly, gut wrenchingly, headache drivenly bad Pens film is, this is the only one that is closest.
Atleast Pendragon got something right for once.
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Post by beecus on May 12, 2006 11:11:51 GMT
Yep, sadly I have to agree too, Pendragon takes the prize for that category
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Post by Thunder Child on May 12, 2006 11:30:48 GMT
Pendragon: It' set in 19th (or actually early 20th) century, has a writer, curate, artilleryman etc. has a Thunder Child, has Tripods bladibladibla. In short: it is closest to the book without a doubt ;D
Johan
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Post by RustiSwordz on May 12, 2006 12:25:08 GMT
Despite the fact its like spooning my eyes out with a red hot poker i would have to agree. The PP version followed by the JW album.
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on May 12, 2006 15:36:05 GMT
Unfortunately I'll have to go along with Pendragon too.
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Post by Luperis on May 12, 2006 19:05:27 GMT
Yes... I'd have to say that it is Pendy's vesion that is closest to the original novel.
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Post by the Donal on May 12, 2006 21:11:47 GMT
Yeah. I guess one out of 3 ain't bad: Accuracy- rather than performance or presentation. Though it did actually have an atmosphere to it- it certainly has it's own feel (excrutiation?!).
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Post by Lensman on May 13, 2006 10:10:16 GMT
The Australian version. I've only seen pieces of it in the "Great Books: War of the Worlds" documentary, but what's seen there is light-years closer than Pendragon's version to what I envision when reading Wells' novel. www.visageentertainment.com/wowmovie.htm
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Post by malfunkshun on May 14, 2006 0:38:53 GMT
if you've only seen part of it, how can you judge that its the closest? everybody here has seen the pendragon film and all of us agree that it follows the book almost unfailingy. so the movie sucked... it is a full length, released, available movie, that everyone can see. where is this australian movie? is it available anywhere? how can we really judge it?
it is indisputable that the PP version is the closest to the book. well... it sucked and the book didn't, but if you watch the movie with your only judgement being, is every scene and piece of dialogue included, and is it set in the correct time period? the answer would be yes.
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Post by Lensman on May 14, 2006 1:54:09 GMT
I believe I'm entitled to my opinion, Malfunkshun. The Pendragon film certainly does *not* have all the scenes included. Its omission of the haunting "Ulla! Ulla!" scene is one reason I prefer the Australian version. Also missing from Pendragon's travesty is most of the "Dead London" chapter; there's virtually no black smoke in the entire film; and don't get me started again on what's wrong with, and left out of, the Thunder Child scene.
The question posed was not "What version is most complete?" but rather "What is the closest adaptation?" And the Aussie version comes *much* closer to the vision conjured up by what Wells wrote than does the Pendragon rubbish.
Just my opinion, of course.
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Post by beecus on May 14, 2006 15:21:50 GMT
Sounds like something I'd like to see Lensman, can you give me any leads where to start looking for this version? Thanks P.S. Don't answer 'Australia' he he he ;D
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Post by malfunkshun on May 14, 2006 15:30:17 GMT
yeah, you're entitled to your opinion, no need to get pissy... my main point was that you hadn't seen it all the way through, thats all, so it is impossible to judge the australian movie fairly. who knows what scenes they left out or modified? i'd like to see it for myself.
i don't remember wells describing claws on the end of the fighting machine tentacles though...
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Post by Commandingtripod on May 15, 2006 7:38:36 GMT
Come to think of it, Lensman has produced a good point. I myself haven't seen the Australian version (Though I think I should because I am Australian ). Infact, when I posted that question, I never even thought of it. Perhaps we should look into it a bit more and see if we can produce a copy?
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Post by Lensman on May 15, 2006 8:38:25 GMT
Sounds like something I'd like to see Lensman, can you give me any leads where to start looking for this version? You can try the contact here: www.visageentertainment.com/wowoptions.htmOr you could try contacting the seller on the Aussie e-bay site, archived by Google here (might be the same guy): tinyurl.com/kgd45~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ my main point was that you hadn't seen it all the way through, thats all, so it is impossible to judge the australian movie fairly. who knows what scenes they left out or modified? i'd like to see it for myself. In just about any other case, I'd agree that one shouldn't judge the whole based on just a few parts. But having seen the entire Pendragon effort left me wanting to see quite a bit *less*. Seeing the "Great Books: War of the Worlds" documentary left me wanting to see *more*, and others on this forum have raved about it too. It's true that the one person who reported on the entire thing says the other scenes are not up to the same quality. But I *have* seen the entire Pendragon film, and it's impossible for me to think anyone who did such a good job with a few scenes wouldn't do better than Pendragon on the entire film. After all, that wouldn't be aiming very high.
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Post by HTT on May 15, 2006 8:55:35 GMT
[glow=purple,2,300]I have a copy of it. It's not exactly a 'movie' in the true sense of the word. It was a live show, mixed with on-screen visuals, a kind of bargin bin version of Jeff's tour.
Basically, the 'movie' consists of voice overs, some acting scenes, and interludes of music over victorial stills whilst scene changes and camera moves are made.
On the whole, it wasn't too bad, but a lot of story was missed, and the Thunderchild battle was worse tham Timbos - just lots of stills of ships with music & voices. Dead London, however, was brilliant - the mood is just right.
It's a while since I watched it, so I'll give it another viewing tonight to refresh my memory, and give a proper review tomorrow. [/glow]
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Post by Commandingtripod on May 15, 2006 9:00:45 GMT
Excellent. ;D Look forward to reading it.
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Post by Commandingtripod on May 15, 2006 9:06:31 GMT
Despite the fact its like spooning my eyes out with a red hot poker i would have to agree. The PP version followed by the JW album. Hopefully it will soon be the other way round! JW movie followed by PP! PP's omission of the haunting "Ulla! Ulla Not that I wish to prove you wrong because I know you are right because I've seen this movie for myself, but, didn't their tripods have some shoddy screaming voices or was that just me?
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Post by Lensman on May 15, 2006 9:21:55 GMT
It's been *way* too long since I saw parts of the Aussie version; I certainly don't remember it in any detail. I look forward to HTT's review. the Thunderchild battle was worse tham Timbos - just lots of stills of ships with music & voices. But that's just it-- this film maker knew that it is better to let the viewers just *imagine* it than to do a laughably bad job of it.
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Post by beecus on May 15, 2006 9:26:47 GMT
Well's narrator didn't actually see the Thunderchild battle himself, so perhaps this can be forgiven as him relating a story he heard.
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