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Post by Leatherhead on Feb 6, 2006 4:30:20 GMT
ok, can someone give me a resaonable explanation about the biggest event in human history was forgotten?
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Post by Lensman on Feb 6, 2006 8:49:23 GMT
"This is Walter Cronkite with CBS Evening News. Tonight we're going to try something a little different. I want you, every one of you, to look closely at this spinning spiral shape. Now listen closely to the sound of my voice. You're getting sleepy... sleepy... you're asleep.
"Now I want you to forget all about the Martian invasion. The Martians don't exist. Now when you see something like this, remember it's not a Martian War Machine-- it's just a new type of street lamp. The destruction which was caused... was not an alien invasion; it was a national urban renewal plan. And if someone you know was killed in the invasion, I want you to forget all about them. They never existed.
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Post by Leatherhead on Feb 7, 2006 2:16:36 GMT
OH. are you joking, or is that how it worked?
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Post by EvilNerfherder on Feb 7, 2006 2:49:19 GMT
If I remember rightly, not everybody had forgotten.
I'm sure Blackwood and Co met people during the series who were veterans of the original attack.
I don't remember it being adequately explained. I guess it was a prolonged government cover up and disinformation campaign that did it (that old cherry).. but that's not very plausible, really. Maybe if the destruction of the War wasn't as widespread as was portrayed in the '53 flick, that might work, but otherwise it would be a tough thing to cover up, I should think. Who knows?
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Post by Graz on Feb 7, 2006 13:21:33 GMT
The weird thing is, that people do forget important events, unless they are regularly spoken of. Untill a few years ago, hardly any kids under the age of 15 had ever heard of the Starwars films! Sounds impossible, but true. Ask people about the Boer War, or the Falklands war of 1982 and more often than not, you'll just get a puzzled face in response. If people dont talk about it, then it wont get remembered. Coupled with the pesky government officials covering everything up, we don't stand a chance against those Morthrens.
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Post by Lensman on Feb 9, 2006 6:32:46 GMT
OH. are you joking, or is that how it worked? A joke, sorry. The premise of the series was that most people "just forgot" because it was a traumatic experience, or some such nonsense. Not believable at all*, which is one reason my opinion of the series is so low. *Well actually it's entirely believable that some *individuals* would block it out of their memory-- that sort of thing does happen-- but certainly not society as a whole. |
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Post by Lensman on Feb 9, 2006 6:42:35 GMT
Ask people about the Boer War, or the Falklands war of 1982 and more often than not, you'll just get a puzzled face in response. If people dont talk about it, then it wont get remembered. I suspect you mean young people in the British Isles don't know about the Falkands war. Ask youngsters in the Falklands... I suspect you'll get a different answer. |
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Post by sunnyrabbiera on Feb 9, 2006 8:06:13 GMT
its all that alien technology... seriously  |
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Post by Luperis on Feb 9, 2006 10:31:16 GMT
its all that alien technology... seriously Yeah - People see shiny things and forget what happened a few minutes before. Ooooohhh.... look - something shiny! Cool - it's so shiny. Did I mention the shininess... What was I talking about again? ;D |
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Post by Graz on Feb 9, 2006 18:22:05 GMT
I suspect you mean young people in the British Isles don't know about the Falkands war. Ask youngsters in the Falklands... I suspect you'll get a different answer. I expect so, but who will take notice of them? It's Exactly how Flannery and chums felt when they remembered the War of '38 in the 'Eye for an eye' episode. They fought in that war, but no one now would take them seriously! |
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Post by Lensman on Feb 9, 2006 23:11:46 GMT
In case it's not apparent, what I'm talking about is the fact that an experience which *traumatizes* a culture-- or otherwise affects it in an important manner-- leaves a lasting impression, whereas experiences that do not may be forgotten quickly.
The Falklands War did not traumatize England. Presumably it *did* traumatize the Faulkland Islands. Having your homeland invaded by a superior force is a highly traumatic experience.
If the Martians invaded the Falkland Islands, Americans might be prone to forget it. If they invaded and devastated Los Angeles and other large American cities, it's hardly likely to be easily or quickly forgotten.
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Post by Graz on Feb 10, 2006 17:18:00 GMT
A very good point indeed. It must be something to do with the American government. I reckon that propaganda, and the gullibility of the masses has something to do with it. We know that the aliens invaded worldwide, and that Los Angeles, New York and Miami were hit, but it is only the Americans that seem to have 'forgotton.' General Wilson said that he was in the war, yet couldn't remember the details. That could be to do with some sort of selective amnesia.
Both the Japanese and the Russians never forgot the invasion, and were willing to assist the Blackwood project. So it seems that the problem is with the Yanks. Hmmm, this is something that the series could have explored in more detail. I reckon there's a really good story in there somewhere.
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Post by Herulian Martian on Jul 31, 2006 15:54:15 GMT
A very good point indeed. It must be something to do with the American government. I reckon that propaganda, and the gullibility of the masses has something to do with it. We know that the aliens invaded worldwide, and that Los Angeles, New York and Miami were hit, but it is only the Americans that seem to have 'forgotton.' General Wilson said that he was in the war, yet couldn't remember the details. That could be to do with some sort of selective amnesia. Both the Japanese and the Russians never forgot the invasion, and were willing to assist the Blackwood project. So it seems that the problem is with the Yanks. Hmmm, this is something that the series could have explored in more detail. I reckon there's a really good story in there somewhere. If so, then Earth should not be so primitive as it was in 1988! We should have been centuries more advanced from the unravelling of Martian/Morthren tech in Russia and Japan...also, how could the U.S. put pressure on Russia and Japan then? They could simply launch back-engineered ships against "our" forces and put us down in a jiffy. "Our" nukes would not work unless they dropped multimegaton ones (which they did not in the film, just an atom bomb). In that universe, America would be a backward country compared with Russia and Japan and would not be a leader of anything. |
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Post by Ashe Raven on Nov 13, 2006 14:51:21 GMT
Here's a good reason from Paramounts perspective
Plot Device
See? overides reality, as is the law of nature
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Post by Graz on Nov 25, 2006 8:48:06 GMT
I guess they couldn't reverse engineer the technology then, and maybe locked it away like the US. The Morthren devices are all controlled by mental ability, and the only alien artifact used by a human in the series, was a crystal weapon which altered their inhibitions. Not an easy technology to understand.
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Post by Roadstergal on Dec 11, 2006 8:11:56 GMT
It's because Americans have crappy memories. Wait, what were we talking about?  I'm currently writing a fanfic to explain the forgetting. To give it the old college try, at least. It's far from my first fanfiction, but it's my first WotW fanfiction. I was a great fan of S1 back when it first aired, and yes, I'm down on S2. So this fic is set in S1. |
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Post by Roadstergal on Dec 12, 2006 6:52:01 GMT
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