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Post by deadsword on Jun 8, 2006 6:20:36 GMT
What killed the people that SS movie had shown floating down the river? I heard that it was because they had been running from the tripods and drowned trying to swim away. I would think a dead body would not float very well after getting water in lungs.
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Post by Commandingtripod on Jun 8, 2006 8:40:01 GMT
I thought that they got drained and were just 'thrown' in.
They couldn't have been rayed since there would be nothing left of them if they were.
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Post by Rob on Jun 8, 2006 9:40:57 GMT
perhaps victims of a boat accident further up stream? trampled to death on a bridge? Bodies drain of blood and discarded by the aliens, although I would have thought they would use some kind of juicer, like those ones you see on TV that spin things into shreds.
I got all this blood from just one human!
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Post by beecus on Jun 8, 2006 11:41:38 GMT
I'm pretty sure dead bodies float, even if drowned.. I could be wrong, but I've seen quite a few dead things floating past.. I live near a river I always imagined the people had been escaping the tripods, crossing a river and boiled when the heatray hit the water.. that's just my theory
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Post by Thunder Child on Jun 8, 2006 12:50:29 GMT
I've heard that the Black Smoke was originally planned to be used in the movie but they later decided to scrap it. Maybe they were Black Smoke victims? And because of the fact that the Black Smoke was removed from the film, this scene doesn't make sence...
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Post by Tripod on Jun 8, 2006 18:41:10 GMT
I've heard that the Black Smoke was originally planned to be used in the movie but they later decided to scrap it. Maybe they were Black Smoke victims? And because of the fact that the Black Smoke was removed from the film, this scene doesn't make sence... Well about the Black Smoke, it could just be used as a weapon in the war accept we never get to see it. Because the things we see are all from Ray's POV, we didn't get to see how the rest of the war was fought. You're right about the fact the Black Smoke was intended to be in the movie, David Koepp had actually written a scene in which the main characters had to flee for the Black Smoke, they survived by climbing up in a tall tree. Tripod
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Post by RustiSwordz on Jun 9, 2006 15:28:30 GMT
What killed the people that SS movie had shown floating down the river? I heard that it was because they had been running from the tripods and drowned trying to swim away. I would think a dead body would not float very well after getting water in lungs. ah its the people who slashed their wrists at such a terrible movie, then they jumped in for good measure.... ;D
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Post by FALLINGSTAR on Jun 9, 2006 16:34:02 GMT
I've heard that the Black Smoke was originally planned to be used in the movie but they later decided to scrap it. Maybe they were Black Smoke victims? And because of the fact that the Black Smoke was removed from the film, this scene doesn't make sence... Well about the Black Smoke, it could just be used as a weapon in the war accept we never get to see it. Because the things we see are all from Ray's POV, we didn't get to see how the rest of the war was fought. You're right about the fact the Black Smoke was intended to be in the movie, David Koepp had actually written a scene in which the main characters had to flee for the Black Smoke, they survived by climbing up in a tall tree. Tripod How exceedingly nice of that Koepp fella [ and co ] to 'almost' put the black smoke in a War of the Worlds movie. Still maybe it 'was' in the film but it was in the background so nobody could see it - just past Cruises mug.
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Post by malfunkshun on Jun 9, 2006 21:53:33 GMT
I thought that they got drained and were just 'thrown' in. They couldn't have been rayed since there would be nothing left of them if they were. nothing killed those floating people. it was just another shot done that had no meaning except shock value. we can debate these kinds of things concerning the book, because the book was beautifully done. but the SS movie? almost nothing in that movie is debatable. unless you want to debate how much money went into each shot
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Post by Thunder Child on Jun 10, 2006 9:59:32 GMT
Very true!!
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Post by nervouspete on Jun 11, 2006 22:21:43 GMT
I think they were crushed in a stampede over a bridge, or ran into a river to escape the ray en masse, and some were trampled under. It's a chilling image whatever it was, and entirely possible in the circumstances. Something of the indirect death that so often accompanies disaster. The way that we and Rachel don't know the facts behind how it happens adds to the surreal sudden and unexpected nature of it.
It's like a dream/nightmare like expressionism, the way that the discordent music piles up as she witnesses it is very evocative. It was a chilling moment for me in the cinema.
And bodies can float for a long while after death. Gas builds up during decomposition and bloated bodies do rise to the surface. Not a pretty fact but very common, as aid workers attested during the Cameroon lake monoxide disaster and the tsunami.
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Post by deadsword on Jun 12, 2006 2:08:03 GMT
Maybe the dead in the river were victoms of the tripod using its tentacles, testing them out on people by slamming them againsts something hard and killing them and dropping or tossing them into the river. Or a combination of this and other mentioned theories like the stampede one.
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Post by Lensman on Jun 21, 2006 3:31:50 GMT
It takes awhile for decomposing bodies to build up gas to make them float well up in the water. In warm weather "awhile" would be at least a day or 2. In winter, a lot longer. Until then, most bodies will just barely float if they're not weighed down by something heavy, such as heavy shoes.
But on watching the film a second time, most of the bodies were barely floating. Only a very few were floating well out of the water. As has been suggested, those might have been bodies drained of blood.
I don't buy those people were killed in a stampede. People in the water aren't likely to be trampled to death! Too bad they didn't show the Black Smoke killing those people-- it would have been a nice addition to the movie.
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Post by theredweed on Jun 26, 2006 12:25:19 GMT
The victims may have been in the water and got fried by the heat ray warming up the water?
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Post by Lensman on Jul 8, 2006 8:51:05 GMT
Heat ray? I'm not sure the aliens had a heat ray. I think it was some sort of disintegration ray or something. I don't remember anything they shone their ray weapon on exploding into flame as Wells describes... altho we did see some vehicles (Hummvee, train) which had been set on fire.
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Post by theredweed on Jul 10, 2006 20:37:33 GMT
The book calls it a heat ray, so thats what I call it
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Post by Topaz on Jul 11, 2006 2:16:09 GMT
I always took that scene as a mood shot to show 'how bad the situation really is', lacking many significant scenes of actual combat or human-harvesting. As such, I'm not sure it really matters how they died. They're dead and it scares little Dakota into a closer emotional tie with her dead-beat father; that appears to be the only significance, IMHO.
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Post by Lensman on Jul 11, 2006 7:08:35 GMT
I think you're right, Topaz-- we're over-analyzing the scene.
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Post by theredweed on Jul 11, 2006 13:17:23 GMT
We are starting to sound like a group of media students in a seminar, I left uni to ge away from this, so I am with you Topaz and Lensman, let just accept it
(you know in a day I will be analyzing again)
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Post by Commandingtripod on Jul 12, 2006 7:31:02 GMT
Agreed.
Some times I feel that we dissect WOTW a bit much. But only sometimes.
But I'm with you three on this. Like it's been said, let's just accept it.
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